If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

China Clay Wagons

Discussion in 'Heritage Rolling Stock' started by evan_m.gray, Jul 4, 2020.

  1. evan_m.gray

    evan_m.gray New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2020
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Cornwall
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Hi

    I am currently working on a project in cornwall and I am looking at all 23 clay wagons that have been preserved in preservation and where they are located.

    I currently know that there are 9 in cornwall: B743000, B743031, B743171, B743226, B743353, B743415, B743443, B743495, B743635. But upon inspection of the rcts wagon database a lot of the wagons and their locations are incorrect.

    Can anyone shed light on the current location of the other 14 clay wagons are?
     
  2. Ploughman

    Ploughman Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2008
    Messages:
    5,806
    Likes Received:
    2,649
    Occupation:
    Ex a lot of things.
    Location:
    Near where the 3 Ridings meet
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
  3. evan_m.gray

    evan_m.gray New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2020
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Cornwall
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I have just had a look and it matches with some information that I already have.

    one that is puzzling me is B743730 as I have spoke recently to the chairman of the east Somerset railway and he says that it left the railway some time ago and does not know where it went, does anyone know where it could be?
     
  4. Johnb

    Johnb Nat Pres stalwart

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2014
    Messages:
    14,318
    Likes Received:
    16,395
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired, best job I've ever had
    Location:
    Buckinghamshire
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    We had some on a photo charter on the Dean Forest Railway in the late 90s
     
    evan_m.gray likes this.
  5. pwsw5054

    pwsw5054 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2016
    Messages:
    396
    Likes Received:
    1,180
    Gender:
    Male
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I'm pretty sure it went to the South Devon, not 100% though.
     
  6. evan_m.gray

    evan_m.gray New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2020
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Cornwall
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I have had a look at south Devon but they only have the one B743010 that I have seen pictures of. This one seems to have vanished into thin air.
     
  7. evan_m.gray

    evan_m.gray New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2020
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Cornwall
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Between the 28th September 2019 (When the wagon was last photographed) and today there is not trace of it.
     
  8. pwsw5054

    pwsw5054 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2016
    Messages:
    396
    Likes Received:
    1,180
    Gender:
    Male
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Fair enough, definitely went to a railway in the South West.
     
  9. mdewell

    mdewell Well-Known Member Friend

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2005
    Messages:
    1,653
    Likes Received:
    2,564
    Occupation:
    UK & Ireland Heritage Railways Webmaster
    Location:
    Ruabon, Wrexham
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    RCTS? Did you meant the RHRP Database?
    http://www.ws.rhrp.org.uk/ws/wsearch.asp
    Whoever it is, I hope you will be sending updates to them as and when you locate the missing wagons. . . :)
     
  10. Barbarian

    Barbarian New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2020
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Devon
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    South Devon Railway took delivery of B743730 today (26 October 2020), and plan to use it alongside B743010 once restored.
     
  11. Barbarian

    Barbarian New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2020
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Devon
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    South Devon Railway
     
  12. Barbarian

    Barbarian New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2020
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Devon
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    South Devon Railway: 743010, 743730 (2)
    Bodmin: 743031, 743171, 743226, 743353, 743415, 743443, 743495, 743635 (8)
    SVR: GWR94059 (1)
    Didcot: 92943 (1)
    743000 NK
     
  13. weltrol

    weltrol Part of the furniture Friend

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2008
    Messages:
    2,784
    Likes Received:
    658
  14. nick813

    nick813 Well-Known Member Loco Owner

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2010
    Messages:
    1,503
    Likes Received:
    1,503
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    poole dorset
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    There is another GWR Clay wagon on The DFR, I think it was partially set on fire recently.
     
  15. nick813

    nick813 Well-Known Member Loco Owner

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2010
    Messages:
    1,503
    Likes Received:
    1,503
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    poole dorset
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    ...and another gwr one at The Glos/War.
     
  16. Ploughman

    Ploughman Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2008
    Messages:
    5,806
    Likes Received:
    2,649
    Occupation:
    Ex a lot of things.
    Location:
    Near where the 3 Ridings meet
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Preserved railway stocklist has 23 records, no idea on accuracy

    Buckinghamshire Buckinghamshire Railway Centre /1954 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Static Display, In Museum B 743029 [​IMG]
    Cornwall Bodmin & Wenford Railway /1957 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Operational B 743353 [​IMG]
    Cornwall Bodmin & Wenford Railway /1959 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Operational B 743495 [​IMG]
    Cornwall Bodmin & Wenford Railway /1958 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Operational B 743443 [​IMG]
    Cornwall Bodmin & Wenford Railway /1954 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Operational B 743031 [​IMG]
    Cornwall Bodmin & Wenford Railway /1955 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Operational B 743171 [​IMG]
    Cornwall St Austell China Clay Museum Ltd /1954 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Static Display B 743000 [​IMG]
    Devon South Devon Railway /1954 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Unknown B 743010 [​IMG]
    Devon Tarka Valley Railway Group /1955 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Static Display B 743169 [​IMG]
    Essex Mangapps Railway Museum /1959 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Unknown B 743664 [​IMG]
    Gloucestershire Gloucester & Warwickshire Railway /1960 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Operational, in Demo Train B 743835 [​IMG]
    Somerset East Somerset Railway /1960 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Under Repair/Restoration, Off Site B 743730 [​IMG]
    Unknown Unknown /1960 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Unknown B 743773 [​IMG]
    Unknown Unknown /1960 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Unknown B 743755 [​IMG]
    Wales Torfaen Big Pit Trust Ltd /1956 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Static Display B 743249 [​IMG]
    Wales Torfaen Big Pit Trust Ltd /1956 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Static Display B 743303 [​IMG]
    Wales Torfaen Big Pit Trust Ltd /1958 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Static Display B 743404 [​IMG]
    Wales Torfaen Big Pit Trust Ltd /1960 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Static Display B 743836 [​IMG]
    Wales Torfaen Pontypool & Blaenavon Railway /1956 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood std B 743226 [​IMG]
    Wales Torfaen Pontypool & Blaenavon Railway /1959 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood std B 743635 [​IMG]
    Wales Torfaen Pontypool & Blaenavon Railway /1960 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood std B 743823 [​IMG]
    Wales Torfaen Pontypool & Blaenavon Railway /1958 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood std B 743415 [​IMG]
    Yorkshire North NRM York /1955 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Static Display B 743141
     
    Johnme101 and Bluenosejohn like this.
  17. nick813

    nick813 Well-Known Member Loco Owner

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2010
    Messages:
    1,503
    Likes Received:
    1,503
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    poole dorset
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
  18. Devonbelle

    Devonbelle New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2007
    Messages:
    121
    Likes Received:
    140
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Professional railwayman
    Location:
    Buggleskelly!
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Really interesting - what happened to the one at St Blazey depot which belonged to EWS/DB Cargo - is it still there?
     
  19. Clay Wagon Project

    Clay Wagon Project New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2020
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    10
    Location:
    Bodmin
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Hi Paul,

    The St Blazey Clay Wagon was B743835, it left St Blazey (When we don't exactly know) and is currently residing at the Gloucs Warks Railway.

    Regards
    Clay Wagon Project
     
    Devonbelle likes this.
  20. evan_m.gray

    evan_m.gray New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2020
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Cornwall
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    hello!

    an update been long coming.

    the project that myself and my father had founded created and was running that being the clay wagon project has now stopped meaning our dream of restoring the largest collection of BR china clay wagons has now ended and any work to those wagons is now being done by bodmin and wenford railway. politics of the railway caused it to stop on our end.
     
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2023

Share This Page