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LNER Beaver tail observation saloons, what's happening with them ?

Discussion in 'Heritage Rolling Stock' started by toplight, Dec 29, 2017.

  1. ross

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    Is there a date for the unveiling? Is anyone allowed to know?
     
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    I think that that will be dictated by events outside anybody's control.

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    So anyone in the Kent area now knows what to look out for for then! Or are we doing a Trump and have a look at 180 degrees to the North? ;):)
     
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    It will be safely inside by now.

    Next month's Steam Railway magazine might be of interest.

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    Matt37401 Nat Pres stalwart

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    You Tease! :) Seriously mate, I look forward to seeing your work.
     
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    Do they have the valances for 4464 ?
     
  7. Sawdust

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    I think so they removed them when it came off mainline duties to ease maintenance. They aren't fitted at the moment though.

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  8. Sawdust

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    Ok folks, big news!

    1729 is now coupled to 4464 and looks magnificent.

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    I was wondering whether to complete the look consideration was given to refitting them . look forward to seeing the images though . Now to get it behind Dominion of Canada (says I very tongue in cheek)
     
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    Was one of these two coaches in the train when Mallard did it's 126mph record run, and if so which one ?
     
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    Neither of Beavertails were used. I also think it was the "spare" unbranded Cornation/West Riding set that was used for the infamous "Brake Test" run that Gresley used to try for the record........ The spare set was cover set if either of the named sets were unavailable for whatever reason, so by default wasn't named, but were otherwise identical, bar the Beavertails for the Cornation sets.
     
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    The six coaches which formed the dash were First/First 1733/4, Open Third/Kitchen Third 1735/6 & Full Third/Brake Third 1737/8 +the diameter coach, the Brake Third/Kitchen Third 1731/2 was removed to make the train lighter, so the train wasn't much heavier than a normal 6 coach train due to the Coronation coaches been shorter than a normal coach.
     
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    I take you mean the former North Eastern Dynamometer Car, rather than diameter coach........? Just goes to show Gresley Was Right..........Man:Chillout::Googleit:!
     
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    Not having my book to hand, are all those numbers from the spare set?

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    This is the numbers listed as the spare set, in Michael Harris LNER coach book.
     
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    Sir, you are again a tease! However I look forward to seeing your work. :)
     
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    If you would like to see some of Sawdust's work. It can be seen the Teak set on the NYMR. Granted over the years there have be repairs made on the set, but that goes with the territory........ What's more having seen Sawdust in action and the results of his work I can vouch for the quality of his skills and the finished product.
     
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    This is what the original interior looked like, Am doing lots of making and upholstering carriage seats at the moment myself, so interested in how this part was done. ? Earlier in the thread you said the seats the LNER just bought off the peg from Heals department store (this company still exists), so did you manage to find/make some similar chairs ?

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    No, it still has the originals, only lacking the settee, which I made.

    I think all the originals from both vehicles were put in one when the saloons were enlarged and the other equipped with replacements of a slightly different design

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    PS it looks better in colour.
     
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    The rebuilt one had a couple of originals (might have been four actually) when first restored at the GCR, otherwise it entered service with some modern chairs but I believe these have since been replaced with replicas of the originals. (Caveat: it’s a while since I’ve seeninside it)


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