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BR Standard class 6 No. 72010 'Hengist' and Clan Discussion Thread

Discuție în 'Steam Traction' creată de Bulleid Pacific, 23 Noi 2009.

  1. Spamcan81

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    According to Gerry Fiennes, some GE crews loved them as they’d never had so much power to play with. IIRC the trials weren’t so much about sending the Bulleids there en masse but to see what a Class 7 could achieve prior to allocating Britannias to the line.
     
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    I don't think there's any doubt whatever that crews loved the Bulleids. Their ability to do anything asked of them - and a lot more - was bound to endear them to drivers, although firemen having to feed their, erm, healthy appetite might have been less keen.

    The problems weren't on the road but on the sheds, and they could never be described as 'fitters' friends'.
     
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    To return to the main subject of this topic(!), our 3D model has had a major update as Keith has been working on the boiler. Here's an extract framesCAD.jpg
     
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    Agree that they weren’t fitter friendly but Dick Hardy is on record as saying “How we enjoyed that machine” after 34059’s foray on the GE in 1949.
     
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    Bout 6 inches too far back ?
     
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    Which bit? Do you mean 150 mm?
     
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    Metric. What is that? Question-What are the only parts of a British Standard steam loco that are dimensioned in metric?
     
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    Injector cones?
     
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    Correct, almost. Add ejector cones, as well.
     
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    Now we are no longer part of the 4th Reich perhaps we can go back to Pounds shillings and pence, lbs and ounces etc...
     
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    I think my kids would have something to say if that suggestion were made. As a parent, I'm not sure I should condone the language they'd use, however much I'd agree with it...
     
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    I would suspect the majority of under 50's would agree with your kids, I am in the hinterland insofar as we were taught both systems, neither particularly well.
     
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    .... and cover ourselves with wode and live in caves!
    Ray.
     
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    I was taught metric at school, but have always worked in imperial units, especially since I restored my bike, and now the bus. I have always used imperial length measurements, always stuck to miles, yards, inches (much less so furlongs or chains), and never use kilometres or metres.
    I have a chap helping me on the bus, and he works in metric... So I asked him that for working on my bus with me, he trusts my imperial measurements and marking out, as I don't want my timber framework being a "best fit" - I want it right.

    Richard.
     
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    Surely you mean nobles, guineas, florins and groats?
     
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    Also halfpennies, farthings, crowns, half-crowns ...
    And the width of a piece of cloth was measured in inches, but the length in yards and eighths of yards.

    The USA has stuck to their version of imperial. The rest of the world uses metric. We've continued to use a horrible mixture. Road distances and speeds are still in miles. Even under EU rules milk could be sold in pints as long as it was in bottles, and beer and cider could be sold in pints as long as it was on draft, not in bottles.

    HOWEVER - none of that has much do with Hengist or any other steam loco.
     
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    Apart that, to the best of my knowledge, all our drawings have been converted from imperial to metric to enable parts to be manufactured in a modern factory, and I am very grateful for that expertise!
     
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    Great news concerning the tyres. I seem to recall some issues a while back, sourcing tyres from SA. Can't recall the precise nature of the problems, but I trust SA specialist suppliers are now used to newbuild requirements, which I suspect aren't exactly the largest production runs in their industry!
     
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    If I recall correctly the train was a special for the Clan Cameron, hence 72001, but also the Driver, Fireman and Guard were all Camerons too.
     
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  20. 'Clan' Hengist

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    That is exactly correct. As a point of interest, I do know that one of the original nameplates still exists from this loco as I borrowed it for a display some years back. The owner has since sold it on I believe. May 2014 184.JPG

    Here it is on display along with one of our Hengist plates and a Clan McAlpine plate that was made for Sir Bill and presented to him by myself during the period when he was our Patron. Sir Bill loved it, even though there had never been a Clan McAlpine. I presume it is now in the Museum at Fawley Hill with the rest of his railway artefacts.
     
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