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Bure Valley Railway

Тема в разделе 'Narrow Gauge Railways', создана пользователем andrewshimmin, 5 июл 2018.

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    "Beaching the bars" we called that (and the shingle was referred to as "beach"). I'm not sure I would call Welsh coal superb, not least because fire bars are expensive - whatever its other virtues, regularly replacing firebars puts your daily running costs up.

    Tom
     
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    It's like rocket fuel! There's little smoke and ash and tons of heat once it burns through. Long lasting as well which can catch you out. It collapses like a souffle towards the end of the cycle and you get an "oops" moment if you don't keep an eye on it. From a performance view it works well. However, as you say, other things have to be factored in. With the firebar issue solved I assumed that was the end of the matter, but it seems I may have been wrong.
     
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    It's unusual for a boiler to be totally condemned on an inspection; more usually, the inspector requires certain work doing. Whether, the owners consider them to be not worth repairing is a different matter. It is known exactly what the problems are? If new boilers are required, it will be a relatively long wait, even for a small boiler.
     
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    That is exactly the case. However this particular boiler has needed a lot of specialist welding costing many thousands of pounds so far and much work over the last few months.

    Andrew Barnes again. "In the autumn we encountered a number of problems with No.7 Spitfires boiler during the course of it’s 10 year overhaul. The cap welds on the stays within the inner firebox showed signs of deterioration. This was attended to with all the stay welds being ground out to good metal and rewelded. Together with replacement of the washout and fusible plug bosses, we were positive when the boiler was presented for NDT testing. Sadly the inspection highlighted hairline cracking radiating from the tell tales on the bottom two rows of stays. This required the bottom two rows of stays to be cut out and replaced."
    "The bottom two rows of stays were cut out and replaced and further NDT testing undertaken and all looked good.
    Wednesday of this week saw the boiler inspector visit to undertake the Hydraulic test. Disaster struck, with a load bang, one of the side stays snapped. Immediately the test was abandoned. The requirement of the inspector was to remove the inner wrapper and replace it and all stays."

    How much money do you throw at a boiler which when it is done will still be a 25 year old boiler? At what point to you say you are not going to throw more money at a boiler? Each visit from the boiler inspector costs, the coded welder costs and so on. Bear in mind this year with only about a quarter of the normal income BVR has spent a lot to get to this stage of stay failure. To send the boiler away and have the firebox dismantled, the wrapper and stays replaced will probably be getting on for half the price of a new boiler. The other issue of course is you never know what you are going to find when you open up a boiler! So the decision to put this boiler aside for the time being and go for a new one is the right thing to do imho.
     
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    I've 'liked' this post, not because of what it says about the condition of the boiler but because of the honesty in saying it.
     
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    Just been announced on rail advent that experimenting with home fire E bio coal on blinkling hall has proved to be a success and burns and raises steam up just as efficiently tested against fros y Fran Welsh steam coal but with more ash content but less hazardous fumes whilst been burnt, hopefully if this method of raising steam on a standard gauge loco with bio coal was successful (would anyone on here know more about that) it could solve the problem of a alternative fuel for raising steam besides sourcing coal from overseas when our last U.K. open cast coal mine shuts next year.
    Davo 56F
     
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    The new battery electric locomotive has arrived on the line.
     
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    Surely steam is the appeal of this line? I would not certainly not pay to ride behind it.
     
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    That is a reasonable personal choice, but diesel traction happens on many railways, some of which even have "Steam" in their names, which the Bure Valley Railway does not.
     
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    They also have a regular diesel diagram on their red timetable. The loco is designed for use on services, plus as a rescue loco capable of hauling a full length train plus steam loco, and will be able to work three round trips per day. It's also very handy to a loco that can be used in event of fire risk.
     
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    I assume the new battery electric will become BVR 2? First time they’ve had a BVR 2 since the Sandy River locomotive left in the ‘90s
     
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    There is an article about this loco in the latest Narrow Gauge World. Takeaways are:

    It is referred to by the Managing Director as BVR no 2.
    It is not intended to be a substitute for steam though it may take over the evening diesel hauled services to allow the sole mainline diesel to be overhauled.
    The design spec called for it to be able to rescue a complete train with steam loco and haul the entire consist the full nine miles at line speed.

    With the diesel it will also allow the railway to continue to operate a full service during high fire risk periods; up until now they have only been able to operate a limited service.
     
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    Absolutely right.. if folks choose to ride behind diesel or battery then good luck to them but not for me.
     
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    I would certainly ride behind the battery loco out of simple curiosity if nothing else
     
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    I might have to revisit the BVR... :)
     
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    Does the article indicate how many miles total on a full charge?
     

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