Current and Proposed New-Builds

From what I remember at the time the only significant part of another engine that was used was the tender. The entire loco was new. thin sheet material and the driving wheels at least were cast as a 1/4 wheel and bolted together to provide the visible half of the wheel. I would imagine the bogie and trailing wheels were spoked wagon wheels. You might be thinking of the Austerity that provided the basis of the NRM's broad gauge replica.

 

I think you are thinking of the broad gauge Iron Duke replica, which had an Austerity cylinders and boiler at its heart. The Windsor replica used an LBSCR tender underframe, the wheels from which now part of “Beachy Head” but the rest was essentially cosmetic.

Tom

 

Sorry, meant 4003!

 

True, but they state that they are going to build a replacement for 5952 as they intend to restore the Hall in due course. Didcot must have a spare set of bogie wheels from 4942 as the Saint got new, larger dia. ones IIRC.
Ray

 

I don't know about a "fund" as such but one of their members (who was very active as "Taff" on one of the Model Engineering Forums) was working on the design for a replica when he died a good 5 yrs ago. I assume that the project stalled after his untimely demise.
Ray.

 

I believe that upon Taff's demise, the project went into abeyance. The GWS have rather had their hands full with LoL, and as many have pointed out, a considerable proportion of the fleet is currently out of use. I do hope that there will be a re-start of the 3031 project. As my friend constantly bemoans, 'people love novelty', and I do believe a new build victorian stunner like a 3031 will be a considerable draw. Lady of Legend, as a GWR 4-6-0, does look quite a bit like some other GWR 4-6-0s. A working single would be unique- and even Joe Public( with sufficient prompting) might recognise that.

 

What is interesting about those particular engines is that they had high availability and about the right sort of mileage you would expect for the 4-4-0s on secondary duties, ahead of some of those which were expected to be doing higher mileages and have higher availability on front line expresses.

Statistics from primary evidence are the future of railway history...

 

All the more reason to get Fiefly or the Iron Duke running again!

 

I w

I would very much like to see Iron Duke and/or Firefly running again. They can only be a draw to Didcot though. There simply is nowhere else for them to run. Lady of Legend can run on almost any preserved line, and would be a draw for many, though I suspect that most civilians would really not see much difference between her and any number of other GWR 4-6-0's.
A 3031 has a grace and style almost unmatched- I would claim they were the most beautiful British locomotives ever, but all singles seem to have something special about them. No1 seems unlikely to escape from York anytime soon, nor 673, and 123 hasn't been outside of Glasgow Transport museum in 50 years afaik and probably won't get out for another 50 years, Cornwall and Columbine, never.
An Achilles might have what it takes to earn her keep. Bristol- Weymouth anybody?

 

Well, we've got the LNWR Bloomer replica! Progress isn't as quick as many of us would probably like it to be, but recent noises from Tyseley over the past year or so appear to indicate that she hasn't been forgotten about and the project will hopefully be seen through to it's conclusion. She might not be quite as glamorous as a 3031 or GNR No.1, but it's certainly better than nothing at all.

 

Are there not one or two steepish bits on that route?

 

Ideally a 3031 should back onto a light train at Bristol that 3440 has taken from Plymouth and run into Paddington. Well, I can dream...

 

118 mi

118 miles in 100minutes? Current schedule on MLN is 96 minutes.....should work with pathing

 

Hmm, not completely convinced. The major type of history I tend to avoid reading is economic history, because the focus on numbers becomes mind numbing. Those statistics need to be used, but to support the case, not be the sole focus.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

 

It would work much better than 75mph steam schedules which often use a gap in timetable provided for class 6 (60mph) freights.
Allowing for a suitable load, the passenger seats would be very expensive.

Cheers, Neil

 

It would be a start to stop average of 71mph... tickets might be pricey, but what price a ride on a time machine? I believe a standard return is about £120

 

Statistics should always be presented in context of course: but we really should be focusing on primary evidence - e.g. locomotive class AX did mileage Y in 1946 which was higher than AZ class and its availability was B against AZ classes' C...what does this tell us, and is it different from the stories we've heard before?

Because sitting here with the numbers and what's been written show a stark difference - for example in the Thompson story - the numbers do actually reveal something in the area of study I have - and if the same approach and focus was there in railway history from the start, then we wouldn't be having the debate we are having now.

 

I'm not sure what's going on with SR generally at the moment.

 

I am pretty sure (don't have them to hand) that the accounts have a restricted fund for such an event, don't think it has very much in it, but suggests it has at least been thought of, also have a vague recollection that someone has done some work already cataloguing what drawings are available etc.

I believe that the bogie and trailing wheels for the Windsor one came from a GWR tender which was in the ownership of the 4920 owning group in the early 80's.

 

Not much to report on at the moment is there? I was referring to 926’s blastpipe arrangement and trial scheduled for last Thursday.