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Lynton and Barnstaple - Operations and Development

Discussion in 'Narrow Gauge Railways' started by 50044 Exeter, Dec 25, 2009.

  1. Monkey Magic

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    "Where did you get that umbrella to my lover?"
     
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    Further to the good news which Chris D shared with us all (see above), this page on the L&B website https://www.lynton-rail.org.uk/page/heritage-rolling-stock#van23 gives you a little more information about the iconic Van 23 while this page https://www.lynton-rail.org.uk/page/lynton-and-barnstaple-railway-trust-heritage-carriages-project gives more information about the Heritage Rolling Stock.
    At the foot of the second webpage there is a button which invites contributions. I am now going to report to the L&B webmaster that there is currently a broken link from that button.
    In the meantime one can make use of this page https://www.lynton-rail.co.uk/form/donation to make a donation towards the L&B Rolling Stock or indeed to any other L&B project. If you are willing and able to allow the L&B to claim Gift Aid on your donation that would be much appreciated.
    Thanks in anticipation
    Mike
     
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    That must have been a quick fix 'cos it works now :)
     
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    Actually they are called 'anbrellas' in deepest Debn.
     
  5. Monkey Magic

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    I don't have the skills to capture Jannerese in all its glory. :(
     
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    Do we know when the L & B will be re-opening....the website just says ...soon, to be announced ?
     
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    One thing that to a degree surprises me, is the amount of rolling stock that has survived as chicken coops, holiday [and normal] homes and garden sheds. Pity the locomotives didn't fair as well, though in the grand scheme of things there is/was little call for such small narrow gauge machines on the national network.
     
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    Here's another news page for you. This one details some of the preparational work now being undertaken to reopen the L&B, hopefully soon.

    See >>> https://www.lynton-rail.org.uk/story/preparing-lb-reopening-plans-april-2021


    This is the latest on the L&BR opening.

    See >>> https://www.lynton-rail.org.uk/story/lockdown-march-update-lb-reopening-plans

    Note that the actual date still has to be confirmed. The 12th April / 17th May are only target dates at this time, anything can happen in the future to prevent it from happening.

    The bottom line is to watch the L&BR website for a further announcement.
     
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    I give in :confused:
    Jannerese?
    Pat
     
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    Most of us now in our 70s learnt the basics of word and excel through being introduced to it at work. And then bought a Wordstar word processor. I found the bill for it the other day and nearly fell through the floor at the enormous cost But my 86 year-old neighbour former cost accountant wont touch a computer despite invitations. Technology moves fast. When I was articled to a firm of Chartered Accountants in the centre of Cambridge in 1963 we had a telephone and a typewriter. The typewriter had a 18" carriage because accounts were on double sheet foolscap - assets and expenditure were on the left and liabilities and income on the right. When I was at school punishment was adding 6-figure columns and now I found myself doing it for a living on analysis paper. (which is why I became a lion tamer) Everything was done by hand including making cash books and trial balances balance at small and medium sized businesses (in £. s. and d) But thank goodness we didn't have VAT, only Profits Tax, and that was as simple as VAT ought to be altered to now we're out of the EU.
     
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    I only know of this because we call Trago Janner Disney and I was curious as to where that came from
     
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    Many coach bits survived til the 60s completely devoid of paint because the outsides were made of teak and galvanised iron sheets (and of course, glass windows). See the article in L & B Magazine No 50 for those whose membership goes as far back as 1996. From enquiries and good luck I found 9 bits, including the 2 that survived more-or-less whole and 12 foot of Coach No 17, the middle bit of No 7, the end of No 4 and a similar bit of No 3 (in poor condition, so incorporated in No 7). There had clearly been several more that got broken up in the 40s and 50s. At one location there was a shed made out of the sliding partitions that used to drop down between seats making a close third class coach into an open one. Some doors incorporated into buildings have been found since. That Van 23 lasted for nearly 60 years after closure until it was found in 1993 and was still restorable is amazing - the wooden underframe was clearly oak and a bit protected, but the rest of it ? Parts of a 4-wheel van and a Howard van came to light, although they will probably be only suitable for providing the odd bit and a pattern for replicas. These relics were recorded and have enabled a comprehensive picture to be compiled (see the book 'Measured and Drawn'). When Coach No 2 was rescued in 1977-82 before it fell to pieces and went to the NRM it was the intention to restore it, but that now seems unlikely, so it will be a delight to be able to travel in the replica of sister coach No 1 when work is started on it when this virus is quelled.
     
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    Sorry to correct you, but it was never the NRM's intention to restore Coach No 2. Rather the intention was purely to conserve it in the condition that it arrived in as an example of how old vehicles were often repurposed for other uses once the railway had finished with them. OK so it isn't a Barry wreck but it has served a similar purpose rather well for 40 odd years now. What would be interesting would be to see the replica of sister Coach No 1 alongside it at the NRM at some time, but I doubt that will happen anytime soon, if ever.

    Peter
     
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    Were you involved when Dr Coiley (the NRM Director) and David Jenkinson ( I think the Education Officer) and Andrew Dow and me at the time we went to have tea with the owner in 1977 to talk about the coach and subsequently until it was eventually moved to York in two lorry-loads in April 1982 ? Because if not I would beg to disagree with you.
     
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    Yes. I've been a volunteer there since 1976. I remember that on arrival it was realised that the only practical solution was conservation as the coach was felt to be too far gone for restoration. The advantage of this approach was that much more of the original fabric of the coach was retained than if restoration had been attempted.

    Peter
     
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    There are pictures of this carriage at the NRM in Post #2606 on p131 in this thread.
     
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    From the post "It is a shame that there is no mention of the rebuilding of the L & B by the exhibit."
    Is this still the same if the museum reopens?
    On a recent visit to the Mid Hants line was good to see a L and B display with flyers, or does the NRM have rules against displays?.
     
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    That's the first time I've heard the precise rationale for keeping this particular vehicle 'as is', so many thanks for sharing. By the by (and no expert, me, I mean no criticism of any decisions by those infinitely more qualified to make 'em than me), given some of the amazing restorations now being achieved, I'd be curious to know whether a similar inspection of this carriage today might reach a different conclusion? I'm thinking here of a conflab on another thread a while back, concerning the loss of ex-LBSCR Directors Saloon, 6996, which ended it's days as an ED vehicle, dumped at Ryde, at which time (post-electrification, very early IWSR era) it was considered 'past restoration'.
     
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    The L & B carriage at the NRM certainly looks suitable for restoration but I think it is a good exhibit in "As is" condition and it certainly does tell its own story. It would be good to have an up to date board showing the present L & B story alongside.
    Another story worth telling at the NRM is, of course, the "Barry Scrapyard Saga" .......is there a suitable "Ex Barry condition" locomotive for exhibition, together with a restored (sister?) locomotive? ....worth it's own thread?
     

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