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Coaches for Sale .

Rasprava u 'Heritage Rolling Stock' pokrenuta od Graham A, 7. Travanj 2021..

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  1. Graham A

    Graham A New Member

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    Does anyone know of any coaches that are available for sale , that are suitable for a conversion project please ?

    Must be on its wheels for transportation , interior does not need to be complete , but would need to be asbestos free .

    Many Thanks .
     
    Graham A, 7. Travanj 2021.
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  2. ghost

    ghost Part of the furniture

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    Are you planning to move it by rail, either to its final destination or around the site at its final destination? If not, then I would suggest that buying a grounded body would be cheaper and probably easier to transport.
     
    ghost, 7. Travanj 2021.
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  3. Jamessquared

    Jamessquared Nat Pres stalwart

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    The Bluebell Railway has three LMS sleepers and two Mark 1s for sale:

    https://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/pics/398.html
    https://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/pics/603.html
    https://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/pics/623.html
    https://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/pics/staff_qos.html
    https://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/pics/tcl_dorm.html

    All include wheels!

    Tom
     
    Jamessquared, 7. Travanj 2021.
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  4. 71000Trust

    71000Trust New Member

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    We at the BR Class 8 Steam Locomotive Trust have a Mk2 Support Coach for sale. Have a look at the attached. More info from the Trust Chairman, Trevor Tuckley (email Chairman@TheDuke.UK.com)
     

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    71000Trust, 7. Travanj 2021.
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  5. daveannjon

    daveannjon Well-Known Member

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  6. oliversbest

    oliversbest Member

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    As an enthusiast can one say that some of those Bluebell Coaches look to be in pretty desperate condition. The scrappers torch cannot be far away!
     
    oliversbest, 11. Travanj 2021.
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  7. Pete Thornhill

    Pete Thornhill Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Administrator Moderator Friend

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    Far worse has been restored over the years, problem here is will anyone bite the bullet and restore them? I’d like to think that sleepers remain represented in preservation outside of the NRM but apart from using as volunteer sleeping accommodation the uses are limited.

    Even as sleeping accommodation, there have recently been better options such as the MK3’s which were ready to go, don’t require restoration and probably work out cheaper when restoration costs are factored in.
     
    Pete Thornhill, 11. Travanj 2021.
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  8. Graham A

    Graham A New Member

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    I see that the Mk1 SLC , sleeping car ,at The Bluebell ,seems to be the only survivor of that type , ie sleeper composite , I know there are other sleeping cars at
    Carnforth , but likely for parts only , anyone interested in saving 2442? , be a shame if it went for scrap , and has had work done on it too.
     
    Graham A, 11. Travanj 2021.
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  9. Jamessquared

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  10. Graham A

    Graham A New Member

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    Thanks Tom , just been looking at surviving Mk1 sleepers on railway heritage register , few survivors , a few spares donors at Carnforth ,
    and many others scrapped , hopefully 2442 at Bluebell can be saved , it would be such a shame if that were to be lost , so eventually none would survive .
     
    Graham A, 12. Travanj 2021.
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  11. 61624

    61624 Part of the furniture

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    AFAIK only one Mk 1 sleeper was ever stripped of its blue asbestos content and then restored, that being the one owned by RVP at the GCR. If I am right then it will eventually be the sole survivor as I cannot see anyone else going to the trouble of stripping, repairing then rebuilding one of these carriages back to sleeper condition for volunteer use when Mk3 sleepers are relatively freely available.
     
    61624, 13. Travanj 2021.
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  12. rloades

    rloades New Member

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    The sleeper that used to be owned by RVP wasn't a Mk1, it was one of those 12 wheeled LMS jobbies by the number of 380M. http://www.rvp-ltd.org.uk/collection.php?vehicle=380
     
    rloades, 13. Travanj 2021.
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  13. and60007

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  14. City of truro fan

    City of truro fan Member

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    There are some old carriages at dawlish not being used back on a railway yet. The Devon centre also has carriages parked in its station but they put a narrow gauge down to start but there is room for them to put the
    Big line back again one day I’d they feel like it
     
    City of truro fan, 13. Travanj 2021.
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  15. GWR4707

    GWR4707 Nat Pres stalwart

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    Sadly, looking at 2442 and the fact that it comes without bogies or wheels, I suspect that even if the 'figures in the low thousands' was swapped for 'figures in the low tens' they would hardly be swamped by offers.
     
    GWR4707, 13. Travanj 2021.
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  16. oliversbest

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    Agreed. Why put such onerous terms on something you are trying to sell. Why not scrap one of those 'mission impossible" wrecks and donate the bogies/wheels. Would make it far more saleable
     
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  17. Jamessquared

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    Don’t think the LMS bogies would fit a Mark 1?

    I suspect the answer for anyone interested is to make what they consider to be a reasonable offer. AFAIK the railway has been trying to give away some carriages for twenty years with no takers.

    Tom
     
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  18. Graham A

    Graham A New Member

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    Just as an aside , does anyone know of any available bogies ,suitable for Mk1 coaches ?
     
    Graham A, 13. Travanj 2021.
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  19. Wagoniester

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    Interesting to hear that. Would have thought such offers be snapped up; I assume they are some in need of serious restoration then?
     
    Wagoniester, 13. Travanj 2021.
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  20. flying scotsman123

    flying scotsman123 Resident of Nat Pres

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    Certainly things like LMS sleepers are often riddled with asbestos and are of little use, so in effect the purchase price is the cost of asbestos removal and transport costs. Likely getting on for at least £20k for a coach that still needs a major restoration that you can't really use for passengers. You'd need to be *really* keen and *really* rich!
     
    flying scotsman123, 13. Travanj 2021.
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