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  1. Ploughman

    Ploughman Part of the furniture

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    In the Heritage world, is there any system set up to pass on information about faults that may be applicable to other railways?

    For example if Railway A has a problem with a design of wagon.
    Checking VCT or Preserved Railway Stocklist it shows 10 of that lot number of wagon are in use at various railways.
    The problem is of a nature that may be repeated elsewhere.

    Is there a formal system to pass this detail on without going through channels such as RAIB. etc.
     
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    The HRA ran a system for a while, but it fizzled out. The matter was raised at a recent ORR/HRA/railways pre-season briefing; the HRA rep said that this was being looked at again.

    One of the issues was ensuring that the data was anonymised sufficiently - I think that it was killed the first incarnation; railways can be rather coy about washing dirty linen in public - rightly or wrongly.

    On the national network, there is an obligation to report defects which could affect other duty holder's vehicles. The obligation is mostly followed....
     
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    Seeing that there is no formal system then.
    We have found a fault with one of our LOWMACS a 1958 Swindon build WV type.
    It looks like the Hornguides have been fabricated with all corners square and not radiused.
    This means that Stress Cracking is a risk.
    Difficult to see due to the springs getting in the way.
    Please check your vehicles to make sure yours is not affected.
    I believe that there are 9 of these wagons in use around the UK from the Preserved Rail stocklist.


    Location Works No. Year Category Type Design Status Number Photo
    Crewe Heritage Centre /1954 9c - BR Wagons 15t 4w Low Machinery Flat Lowmac WV Plank Decking Raised Ends Operational [​IMG]
    Dart Valley Railway Plc. /1959 9c - BR Wagons 15t 4w Low Machinery Flat Lowmac WV Plank Decking Raised Ends std ADB 905117 [​IMG]
    Weardale Railway /1956 9c - BR Wagons 15t 4w Low Machinery Flat Lowmac WV Plank Decking Raised Ends Unknown ADB 905086 [​IMG]
    Gloucester & Warwickshire Railway /1958 9c - BR Wagons 15t 4w Low Machinery Flat Lowmac WV Plank Decking Raised Ends Unknown KDB 905102 [​IMG]
    East Kent Railway /1954 9c - BR Wagons 15t 4w Low Machinery Flat Lowmac WV Plank Decking Raised Ends std [​IMG]
    Great Eastern Traction /1958 9c - BR Wagons 15t 4w Low Machinery Flat Lowmac WV Plank Decking Raised Ends std [​IMG]
    Keith & Dufftown Railway /1958 9c - BR Wagons 15t 4w Low Machinery Flat Lowmac WV Plank Decking Raised Ends Unknown DB 905112 [​IMG]
    Swindon & Cricklade Railway /1958 9c - BR Wagons 15t 4w Low Machinery Flat Lowmac WV Plank Decking Raised Ends Unknown [​IMG]
    North North Yorkshire Moors Railway /1958 9c - BR Wagons 15t 4w Low Machinery Flat Lowmac WV Plank Decking Raised Ends Operational B 905100 [​IMG]


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    Further photo of cracking.
    Behind the spring running up from the frame corner. DSC06251 NE.jpg
     
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    This is really good of you Bryan - and a good use of this website to help others.
    Although I'm surprised at this design fault in a relatively young wagon design. Sharp corners and stress cracking is not exactly a new problem!
     
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    We checked our 5 other LOWMACS, of varying designs and found nothing.
    It seems to be just this variant WV built at Swindon in 1958.
     
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