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Clan Line in 2021

Discussion in 'What's Going On' started by pjhliners, Mar 4, 2021.

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  1. Big Al

    Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

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    Stop digging Ralph. The RTC updated their website last Friday by which time I think it would have been pretty obvious what the route was going to be. :rolleyes:
     
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    I confused Al the RTC site still says Golden Valley both ways where is the update to the Cotswold Line one way?
     
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    That's my point. Despite the RTC site being updated to show a new loco and timings, it seems that the correct route has not been added. Perhaps the RTC doesn't know.

    I've no idea whether the original plan was to run via the Golden Valley each way or not. What I do know is that if a loco owner is asked to substitute at the last minute on a rail tour, they are probably going to first check out a few important things like the route, so they can assess coal requirements and also so that they can say when and where their loco will need to take on water.

    Let's just see what unfolds. We all know how annoying misinformation can be.
     
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    Organised many rail tours have you?
     
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    Deep sarcasm. I thought that was a thing of the past.

    But like yourself, I guess, I have organised many things that needed accurate detail. Just thought it helpful to share something that might be useful to prospective passengers. Let's just see whether I need to retract my words. I've booked anyway so like all things in life it's all about the destination rather than the means by which you get there. :)
     
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    You know as well as I do that NR can be the fly in the ointment where rail tours are concerned but why let that get in the way of a dig at RTC?
     
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    You really are out of your depth on this occasion with your comments so please keep on digging if you wish but it's becoming rather silly.

    Send me a PM and I'll explain why.
     
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    Whatever.
     
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    I think that comment is directed at me.

    Actually I have no problem at all with whatever route is chosen to go to Worcester. All I did was try and help out @bleeder4 and @Gladiator 5076 both of whom were querying the route.

    It just seemed useful info for those yet to book. As for why the RTC hasn't yet updated its own information, who knows? Maybe they haven't been told but I doubt that.
     
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    I don’t think it really matters to the average passenger. They have a fair steam mileage with the best engine on the mainline that no one was expecting. If they have the same driver as we had on the return from Weymouth then a good run will be guaranteed. The latter is highly likely as he’s the only Southall steam driver who has signed the routes to Worcester.
     
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    Never know what to expect on the Venturer. In 2018 we did 2 'anticlockwise' Venturers, outward via Oxford and Evesham; return via Sapperton. In 2019 we did 2 'clockwise' Venturers; outward via Sapperton and return via Evesham and Campden; and one Sapperton both ways. Last February it was Sapperton both ways.
     
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    Is SNG ready then? Wow! ;)
     
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    Think you'll find the website will be updated shortly to say Outward via Oxford and Evesham (unfortunately). Hate that way around as we invariably get held below Wolvercot Jn. for trains on the single line section to Charlbury. Hope we get lucky.
     
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    That's good to know. To be honest I was surprised at the route not being shown correctly as the new management is better at detail than previously. And judging by the late substitutions it's clearly been a tricky time covering the programme with something steamy up front.
     
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    RTC website now updated to show Cotswold outward and Golden Valley return.
     
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    Provisionally timed out of Didcot Parkway at 09.09, just three minutes after the departure of the local stations to Oxford service that arrives OXF at 09.23, it looks like the Cotswold Venturer will be guaranteed a slow transit over the 13 miles onward to Wolvercote Junction. Particularly so as there will then need to be some leeway in the Venturer’s schedule to accommodate the passage of the 0850 Paddington- Great Malvern IET, due to clear Wolverote Jumction at 09.49½ ahead of the Venturer over the North Cotswold Line.

    After its call at Hanborough, the GMV service is due to clear the single line section at Charlbury Junction just before its Charlbury arrival at 10.01 ½. The entry of the next southbound service to the single line section occurs 10 minutes later, with departure of the 08.48 Great Malvern-Paddington service at 10.12. So on paper, with four signals controlling entry to, the 10 intermediate route miles of, and exit from, the single line section, the GMV’s ten minute headway in front of the Venturer should be enough to ensure no conflict of priorities over the single line section.

    Perhaps the recent extension of the Down Oxford Relief Line to just 0.43 miles short of Wolvercote Junction will help in this respect, to ensure that the Venturer is queued to follow the GMV service on as tight a leeway as possible. But it does all look rather tight, so perhaps 1020 Shireman’s apprehensions are well founded. And if it does go wrong at Wolvercote Junction and the Venturer loses its path to any priority given to the southbound IET, then there could also be a further consequential conflict at the Evesham West-Norton Junction (almost) ten mile single line section, offering no prospect of recovery of preceding delays to the Venturer.

    I guess in the end it will all be down to how tightly the threading of the Venturer through the busy service pattern at Oxford is managed – especially if a water stop is going to be factored into this segment of the outward journey, as I would have expected. I shall follow this one with interest.
     
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    UK Railtours' trip to Norwich on 28th August appears to have been cancelled.
     
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    Bum :(
     
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    Sadly it doesn't appear to have been cancelled, it has been cancelled. A casualty of the pingdemic as has happened to one or two trips in Scotland for the A1ST.

    Proof, if we needed it, that there is nothing truly normal about life in the UK yet. :(
     
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    I thought the isolation period was 10 days, the tour is more than 10 days away
     
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