Lynton and Barnstaple - Operations and Development

in all honesty i think people need to take a step back and look at the whole picture,how long do people think it will take to get back to blackmoor! if successful with the twao/planning/finance its going to take a few years to get track,embankments ect put in place,members who attended the forum in november or receive the newsletter will know what plans lay ahead so carriage sheds/base at rowley are long into the future and the shed at woody will be around for a good few years yet,

 

Whilst that claim may be factual, on what basis are you assuming that will not be enough please?

Meanwhile, my question at #4642 remains unanswered....

 

OK, Andy, that form of cover sounds like a viable (and cheap) alternative. Could enough space be found on the existing headshunt for all 5 carriages, plus van 23?
Interesting that there was a carriage trailer on the railway, once, and very odd that it was disposed of, which makes me wonder. Do you know, was it long enough to accommodate the full size rebuilds, or was it just for the Thorpe Park carriages?

 

What I meant by "an awful lot more going on" wasn't refering to the actual movements of trains, I was refering to the increased maintenance. Not just from "we've now got more carriages that need repainting" but also things like serious body work (which hasn't had to be done because the coaches are all still fairly new and their body work is still sound), underframe overhauls, maintenance of maintenance vehicles (such as DZs, diesels, hopper wagons) etc. etc. The "operating patterns" have nothing to do with what I'm saying. What I'm trying to get at is that yes as much as the proposed shed at Blackmoor will replace the one at WB in terms of what services it can provide, surely the railway will require much more variety in what jobs can be undertaken. And therefore just increasing capacity on what's currently available isn't enough.

I'd also like to point out that I'm not trying to slander the L&B or the design/construction team, I'm merely trying to give a different perspective on a conversation that's been repeated several times.

 

It would be libel not slander ....

 

As my school teacher told me all those years ago - you writes on a libel.

 

my mum used to keep herds of pudding bisons!

 

Yes ok whatever you get the point though.

 

Mark,i slightly misunderstood what i was told and apologise if my comment misled anyone,there was a lorry unit,low loader and another 40ft trailer owned by a group of 6 supporters who invested in these items for the railway to use at cost price,when the managment of the railway at that time changed ,so some 12-14 years ago,some of who still hold higher positions within the railway management, it was made clear that these items along with the exmoor transport workshop at bratton fleming would no longer be needed by the railway,hence why the workshop was closed and transport items were sold off

 

what a shame, we made use of this trailer on one occasion and very useful it was too; customised for moving rail vehicles and very user friendly with little or no ramping to be constructed on site. It was also good knowing your money was likely going towards a sympathetic cause, and hopefully not lining pockets!

Anybody know who operates this trailer now?

 

According to Meatman's post this happened 12-14 yers ago - I suspect that the trailer may no longer exist. It may be cheaper to get a specialist to move stock rather than have to maintain a trailer etc.

 

What is the tare on a L&B carriage? As I recall, no17 was 35'2" overall, which is tractorable, rather than lorryable over moderate distance, but GVW is a factor

 

Carriage no.17 weighs in at about 9 tons exactly, give or take the odd cwt. Length 36'2".

 

The Southern Railway official weight of braked coaches was 9 0 (although one list has No 17 as 9 5) and non-braked coaches 8 16. Reproduced in the 1964 history.

 

maximum laden weight for a tractor towed trailer is 18.29 t so well within the limits,there are trailer manufacturers in the area so a bespoke trailer could be made ,after all it is quoted that these carriages are in the region of £120,000 each to make,with another ready to be built plus van 23 id have thought it would be a sound investment to be able to get carriages over to rowley farm and a designated work/paint shop,winter storage shed,room will soon be short at WB for all this rolling stock

 

A good start would be to fix the roof of the storage shed at Rowley Farm which I understand leaks. The idea of storage there, hopefully without the neccessity for planning permission, and keeping carriages there in winter sounds a very good idea pending the building of the depot beyond the road bridge/tunnel.

 

Also the carriage shed at Fairbourne which (IIRC) has slatted wooden sides. Designed by John Elleton having seen a similar design in use overseas, apparently - but I can't remember which country, unfortunately. I'll have to look it up when I get the chance.

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Also the new carriage shed at Boston Lodge which IIRC has wooden slats offset to allow airflow whilst largely preventing horizontal rain ingress.

 

Is there any other type of rain at Blodge?

 

That's quite common on Barns on Farms - they call it "Yorkshire Boarding" or "hit and miss" - 4" boards and 1" gap - surprisingly the rain doesn't come in - snow is another matter.