Great Britain XIV 2022

Look forward to the double jubilees through my local area, just a shame this GB trip isn't going up over the Marches!

Does anybody know the plans for the two once they reach Cardiff? 45596 has some trips from London this summer, but I didn't think they were until July? Assume Leander will head back to Carnforth?

Is 6233 hauling the train out of Cardiff, or joining at Taunton?

 

RTC website says Cardiff to Penzance.

 

Bahamas at Dinting (Scots Guardsman behind) after having arrived from Sheffield with a Rail tour. Not sure of the year but I couldn't find a shot of 5690.

 

It has been updated!
Day 1 6233 to York 35018 to Edinburgh
Days 2-4 46115 in Scotland
Day 5 46115+35018 over Beattock
45690 Cumbrian Coast
Day 6 45596+45690 to Cardiff
Day 7&9 6233 to Penzanze and back to London

 

Exactly the same as what was posted last month.

James

 

I hope so

 

Will they go alone though ?

 

Can anyone shed any light on what the current ground conditions are like in Scotland, fire risk etc. Would anyone care to hazard a guess what days will feature a diesel on the back, not a deal breaker as I would expect it to be used on the rear at some point. Anybody booked on it ?

 

From a friend booked on the tour: diesel on the rear on Saturday & Sunday with 46115 to and from Inverness (insurance due to recent repairs) and then on Monday due to limited coal capacity on 35018 around the fife circle as ECS stabled at Joppa before and after the tour.

Happily corrected if I am wrong!

 

Many thanks for the information, looks like day one, the double jubes and the Duchess could be the potential highlights for the purist. Hopefully the diesel remains on the rear and not the inside over Scotland.

 

Ground conditions in our part of Scotland are reassuringly damp albeit we're a good few miles west of the path of GBXIV. Having watched the Scottish forecast last week it looks like most areas along the route will have had some rain

SEPA have a network of gauges which will give at least show if there's been recent rainfall. Readings can be found at https://www2.sepa.org.uk/rainfall/

 

Alan, you will have to stop all this constant angst about diesels on the back - you will make yourself ill at this rate. It is almost impossible to take a train to the Edinburgh area without a diesel on the rear for shunt moves. That applies to diesel charters as well as steam ones. Most of us are just pleased to see steam at the front of a train, regardless of what may be hanging on at the back.

Peter

 

Wondering about Leander.

 

On previous GB’s the use of diesel loco’s has always been limited with them ‘shadowing’ the train rather than attached, with a few notable exceptions. I would hope GB14 would continue this.

However, we are no longer living in normal times with issues over coal supplies and the cost of fuel of all types skyrocketing
(along with everything else!) so we will find out soon.

Having waited three years since my last trip I am hoping for the best on this one and at least will reconnect with old friends!

Anyone else on here travelling?

Jeff

 

Try and put yourself in the position of the loco owner. In the case of 6115 it’s had work done but hasn’t had the luxury of an extended running in period on a heritage line.
I could be wrong but following a major incident on the ECML, I think it’s now mandatory for loco owners to have delay attribution insurance. It may be different for WC as they are both loco owner and the TOC.
The route 6115 is taking in Scotland is mainly single track so anything that goes wrong will have a major impact on services in both directions. OK the insurance will pay up but they will take their revenge at the next renewal by whacking up the premium, excess or both. It could be considered commercially sensitive so I won’t divulge it but I do know what one loco owner pays in total for insurances. It’s a considerable sum that you wouldn’t want increased if you could help it. On top of that, you can’t insure against loss of reputation and credibility. The passengers will have paid the tour operator and they will naturally blame them if a part of the tour goes wrong. NR will put it down as a black mark against the loco owner.
If it was my responsibility, given the above considerations, I know I would err on the side of caution and hope everyone would understand. Even 35028 tows a diesel around in the leaf fall season just in case.