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4953 Pitchford Hall

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by Paul.Uni, Oct 2, 2019.

  1. Sidmouth

    Sidmouth Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Moderator

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    There is of course the question of the asking price and who is willing to pay it along with you would like a Hall

    the combination of the three leads us unfortunately back to a certain film franchise ......

    alternatively , 498 of us willing to put in £1500 may get a foot in the door . why 498 , there are two already :) although funding the divorce that may follow may be a challenge
     
  2. GWR4707

    GWR4707 Nat Pres stalwart

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    Just as a point or order they have bought a 38xx and at best the stripped carcass of a 28xx :(
     
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    Sorry, yes frames, wheels and cylinders of a 28xx
     
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    Nope. That just won’t work. A Nat Pres consortium would never be able to agree on a livery! I think the only option is for you to buy the engine outright and we’ll pass the hat around to fund the divorce. ;)
     
  5. Paul Grant

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    Its all fantasy sure til it isn't and we find whos bought and where its heading. I don't know if a Hall would be cleared for Strathspey. City Of Truro barely fitted and was subjected to some pretty tight speed limits at platforms. I would very much enjoy watching a Hall blast up and over Kinchurdy Road with a decent load but I think they're pretty set for fleet just now.
     
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    Is the current owner prepared to exchange for something smaller ?
    If so that would open up a lot more possibilities.
     
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    So long as it is more suited to EOR operations, I don't think he'd dismiss the idea.
     
  8. Matt37401

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    Who’d be willing to swap though? Something like a Standard Tank is pretty much ideal for most preserved lines so why replace it with something not as useful? As @Sidmouth says all roads at the moment lead to one place…
     
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    Pete Best has said that 44806 will be his last. Mind you, he said that about 2253, as well. :)

    Edit: 61624 beat me to that.
     
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    I'd suggest that £750K was a bit on the high side.
     
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    Having recently bought 2 Uglys, albeit in need of overhaul (which perhaps could be done for the price of a Hall), what more could the EOR possibly need?
     
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    Enough engines to sustain a reasonable service without excessive wear on those in service at any one time?
     
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    Given the water quality the installation of RO plants would greatly ease the burden of maintenance on the steam fleet
     
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    Sometimes when an engine is for sale after all the "usual suspects" have been discussed ad infinitum on this forum, a previously unknown buyer appears. This happened, for example, with 2859 and 7027. Indeed, as far as I am aware, Thornbury's new owner has not made his (or perhaps ever her!) identity public. Admittedly, both these engines are restoration projects rather than ready-to run, but a desire to prevent 4953 suffering 4920's fate may perhaps be a factor in someone quite unexpected coming out of the woodwork with a big cheque book. As far as purchase by a heritage railway is concerned, we are up against the usual conundrum - some lines which would obviously love to buy a working Hall don't have the money especially after taking a bit hit in 2020/1 and those that are in a better financial state either have enough engines already or wouldn't regard a Hall as appropriate.
     
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    Well that puts Bunch back in the picture. He bought "72" after bumping in the press about buying a class 4 locomotive so swapping it and some cash for Pitchford wouldn't be overly mad but maybe just not the type of loco he wants.
     
  16. Pete Thornhill

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    72? As in 80072? If so I think you will find there is a group that owns that including one of our moderators ;)
     
  17. Paul.Uni

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    72 as in Austerity saddle tank no. 72 currently at Peak Rail

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  18. Sidmouth

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    Thornbury's new owner is known , also owns another loco
     
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    Yes thats on me not laying that one out fully @Pete Thornhill
     
  20. Pete Thornhill

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    Ah got you, I wondered as Matt was talking about Std tanks.
     

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