LMS 45627 The Peaks Express 6/3/22

TheModster · 2022-03-06

Galatea climbing Miles Platting and Chinley on todays Peaks Express:

RalphW · 2022-03-07

作者 Butler Henderson: ↑

Had a good day on this, but considering the load there really has been a lot of "shovage" from the back. I was on the same train last autumn where they said they needed the 47 because of the poor railhead conditions which I understood. No such reason this time and yet even more "help" was given. Seemed so unnecessary as we were relatively punctual most of the day. Still enjoyable to travel behind the Jube but it does take the icing off the cake
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Strange comment since the most likely reason that you were 'more to less on time all day' was because there was some assistance given to ensure good timekeeping.

Fred Kerr · 2022-03-07

作者 Oswald T Wistle: ↑

I had hoped to get out to watch last weeks farewell appearance by Galatea on the WCME but despite my best planning, fate together with the delayed return leg resulted in a "no show." This made it even more imperative that I get a look at the "old girl" on today's Peaks Express. The return was much too late for Oswald, so lunchtime it had to be. Meal times were adjusted and Oswald made his way to Leyland. (From Preston the gradient falls for around a mile before beginning the climb to Coppull. The gradient is 1/314r approaching Leyland station tightening to 1/110r to the south - so the loco should be working.)

Onto the station in plenty of time, I had decided on the Up Fast platform; the Down Fast gives a better viewing angle but is shorter and the Bolton-Barrow train was due along the DFL at the same time as "our train"; the view is not too good when there is a train in the way! I made my way to the extreme southern end, set up my kit and waited, thankfully the throng of watchers stayed at the other end of the platform. In the car , the temperature had shown 8C and there was some pleasant winter sunshine but a cool easterly breeze reminded you it was still winter.

RTT showed that the train had departed Preston RT - excellent news! Starting from Preston, I would expect that the train would lose time as the loco is gradually eased into her work and only steadily accelerates the train up the rising gradient, but no, RTT showed the train to be running RT. Diesel Alert!? After a couple of minutes a smokebox came into view, but no smoke from the chimney only a wisp around the safety valves. The loco came nearer and still no work from the front. Suddenly the regulator was opened and Galatea roared into action, a column of steam and smoke rising from her chimney before being swept away to the west. The smoke billowed down as she passed beneath the road bridge and again under the station footbridge. The sun was shining on the smokebox, the loco rocked gently from side to side as she came ever nearer; the sound was pure Jubilee. Then she was past and the carriages hurried by (10) followed by the dreaded diesel (making much more noise than Mr Shireman would have liked). RT and 33mph.

So I wonder why Galatea was late to join in. Running RT so no need, on what was going to be a long day? Response to increasing gradient? Some minor issue? I like to think she was sneaking up on those waiting on the platforms before shouting the Jubilee equivalent of "Boo!"

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Perhaps waiting for sight of the signal at the end of the Up Fast platform with its (lit) junction indicator - perchance ?

wcmlbls1846 · 2022-03-07

作者 RalphW: ↑

Strange comment since the most likely reason that you were 'more to less on time all day' was because there was some assistance given to ensure good timekeeping.
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The 47 also kept us warm.

I was on the train, 28 very assorted photos here:

https://andrewstransport.smugmug.com/MyBritishrailtours/Peaks-Express-6-March-2022/

Andrew N

sunstream · 2022-03-07

作者 Oswald T Wistle: ↑

I had hoped to get out to watch last weeks farewell appearance by Galatea on the WCME but despite my best planning, fate together with the delayed return leg resulted in a "no show." This made it even more imperative that I get a look at the "old girl" on today's Peaks Express. The return was much too late for Oswald, so lunchtime it had to be. Meal times were adjusted and Oswald made his way to Leyland. (From Preston the gradient falls for around a mile before beginning the climb to Coppull. The gradient is 1/314r approaching Leyland station tightening to 1/110r to the south - so the loco should be working.)

Onto the station in plenty of time, I had decided on the Up Fast platform; the Down Fast gives a better viewing angle but is shorter and the Bolton-Barrow train was due along the DFL at the same time as "our train"; the view is not too good when there is a train in the way! I made my way to the extreme southern end, set up my kit and waited, thankfully the throng of watchers stayed at the other end of the platform. In the car , the temperature had shown 8C and there was some pleasant winter sunshine but a cool easterly breeze reminded you it was still winter.

RTT showed that the train had departed Preston RT - excellent news! Starting from Preston, I would expect that the train would lose time as the loco is gradually eased into her work and only steadily accelerates the train up the rising gradient, but no, RTT showed the train to be running RT. Diesel Alert!? After a couple of minutes a smokebox came into view, but no smoke from the chimney only a wisp around the safety valves. The loco came nearer and still no work from the front. Suddenly the regulator was opened and Galatea roared into action, a column of steam and smoke rising from her chimney before being swept away to the west. The smoke billowed down as she passed beneath the road bridge and again under the station footbridge. The sun was shining on the smokebox, the loco rocked gently from side to side as she came ever nearer; the sound was pure Jubilee. Then she was past and the carriages hurried by (10) followed by the dreaded diesel (making much more noise than Mr Shireman would have liked). RT and 33mph.

So I wonder why Galatea was late to join in. Running RT so no need, on what was going to be a long day? Response to increasing gradient? Some minor issue? I like to think she was sneaking up on those waiting on the platforms before shouting the Jubilee equivalent of "Boo!"

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The Bolton - Barrow train you mention (1C53) was coming off the Bolton line at Euxton Jn as the Jubilee approached you so the Jub's signal at Euxton Jn would be at red. Once 1C53 cleared the Jn. the Jub would get greens.

Oswald T Wistle · 2022-03-08

作者 sunstream: ↑

The Bolton - Barrow train you mention (1C53) was coming off the Bolton line at Euxton Jn as the Jubilee approached you so the Jub's signal at Euxton Jn would be at red. Once 1C53 cleared the Jn. the Jub would get greens.
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I considered most of the wrong possibilities whilst overlooking the right answer (and something that I was already aware of). Thanks for putting me back on the straight and narrow - for now! As it turned out Mr Kelly put on a good show for us and (understandably) the diesel helped.

David likes trains · 2022-03-15

Got around to editing my photo of this tour, going slowly following a late running service train just north of Hope.

Andy Moody · 2022-03-17

Earl's sidings?
Very nice picture.

David likes trains · 2022-03-18

作者 Andy Moody: ↑

Earl's sidings?
Very nice picture.
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Yes, from the bridge just north of the sidings. Needed my step to see over the hedge even at this time of year.

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