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The Lakelander (Saphos Trains) - 09/04/22

Rasprava u 'What's Going On' pokrenuta od neildimmer, 4. Travanj 2022..

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  1. neildimmer

    neildimmer Resident of Nat Pres

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    Are there any times available for this please? and loco allocated, many thanks

    Neil
     
    neildimmer, 4. Travanj 2022.
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  2. CALEDONIA

    CALEDONIA New Member

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    Looking on saphos site the confirmed times are shown as Preston DPT 9.55 and arrive Carlisle at 12.30 which puts it around 15mins in front of the West coast charter
     
    CALEDONIA, 5. Travanj 2022.
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  3. neildimmer

    neildimmer Resident of Nat Pres

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    Thanks, going to Carlisle myself to see them both
    Neil
     
    neildimmer, 5. Travanj 2022.
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  4. Big Al

    Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

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    That knocks on the head any opportunity for WC to run early that they sometimes do.
     
    Big Al, 5. Travanj 2022.
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  5. mike1522

    mike1522 Long Time Member Friend

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    Guessing it is Going to be Royal Scot. Think that 70000 is being saved until June. Would liked to be proved wrong. 34046 hasn’t been on the mainline this year so far. 45231 is the other option with 60007 remaining at SVR.
     
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  6. Steamie Boxes

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    According to a LSL driver in the Cumbrian Coast Group on Facebook, it'll be 46100. 70000 will be on the SVR job end of the month according to LSL socials
     
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  7. Fred Kerr

    Fred Kerr Resident of Nat Pres Friend

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    That presumes a water stop en route - any indication where that will be (Carnforth perchance ?)
     
    Fred Kerr, 7. Travanj 2022.
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  8. sgthompson

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    I think Barton loop has been a water stop in the past Fred .Also the last few Tours have also stopped at Grayrigg to let traffic through.
     
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  9. ribble

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    According to Saphos site,steam is on at Preston so unlikely Barton loop will be used
     
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  10. 30567

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    Can they top up at Preston beforehand? If so, with a 0955 departure and a 40 min gap to the next VT, a water stop at Penrith might be a possibility. In terms of pathing, that might work.
     
    30567, 7. Travanj 2022.
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  11. sgthompson

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    Could water at Oxenholme then David as I’m not sure if Saphos have watered at Carnforth before.
     
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  12. ribble

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    That is certainly a possibility Stephen.
    If the 9.30 departure from Preston,shown as "confirmed" on the Saphos site is correct,the Tesco is very close behind,booked through at 9.39,so it may be necessary for the steam to go into Barton loop to let it past.We will just have to wait for RTT to add the timings !

    UPDATE Saphos site now showing 9.55 off Preston so behind the Tesco anyway
     
    ribble, 7. Travanj 2022.
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  13. NathanP

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    I'm booked on this, so am eagerly awaiting the timings on RTT as well. The confirmed timings on the Saphos site keep changing, so there is obviously some last minute negotiations going on behind the scenes. Interestingly, I received my ticket on 19th March, 3 weeks ahead of the day, which is the furthest in advance I've ever received any ticket for a charter.
     
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  14. GWR4707

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    I would imagine that watering at Carnforth would be quite tricky without WCR co-operation and/or access to Steamtown either for the supply or a tanker, unless it could be done off Crag Bank Bridge I suppose?

    Excuse my ignorance, is there a northbound loop at Oxenholme? Likewise its going to be fun having a cool start from Oxenholme, they often have enough issues with steam starting fresh from Carnforth.

    Pity its 46100, no disrespect to her, but something different would have been nice round the coast, seems to be mainly a diet of Scots and Jubilees these days.
     
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  15. sgthompson

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    Oxenholme has loops South and North :)
     
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  16. GWR4707

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    Thanks, only time I am ever there is when I need to be up north particularly early and its too early to change at Lancaster so its the drive to Kendal!
     
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  17. LMarsh1987

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    Only other shout would be the Black Five. Royal Scot over Shap seems rare these days. A shame 46115 is not in contention for the WCR trip. Two Scots over shap on the same day, is unheard of.
     
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  18. iancawthorne

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  19. GWR4707

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  20. Fred Kerr

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    Re-read the timetable - particularly at Grayrigg where a stop is made between 10:55 - 11:38; a water stop perchance ?
     
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