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Kent & East Sussex Railway

Rasprava u 'Heritage Railways & Centres in the UK' pokrenuta od martin1656, 10. Travanj 2017..

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  1. Jamessquared

    Jamessquared Nat Pres stalwart

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    Do you mean originally, or in preservation?

    My understanding (simplification alert ...) is that historically, paint shades tended to darken over time. That was primarily due to absorption of atmospheric sulphur, which reacted with lead in the paint to form lead sulphide, which is black.

    In modern times, atmospheric sulphur levels are lower, and paints don't have lead in them. Instead, synthetic pigments tend to go lighter over time, due to decomposition of the pigment molecules caused by UV light. They break down into smaller compounds which tend to be uncoloured, or sometimes yellow, in colour. As you mention, you can see lots of rather pinkish carriages in preservation at the moment, whereas a carriage of similar livery 60+ years ago would probably have gone darker over time if left long enough between repaints. (And then there is the question of chemical reactions in the varnish as well; gradual oxidation tends to make them yellow with age ...)

    Tom
     
    Last edited: 10. Lipanj 2022.
    Jamessquared, 10. Lipanj 2022.
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  2. bluetrain

    bluetrain Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the comments. I'm pondering how historic red finishes would have weathered if they were being simultaneously blackened by sulphur and bleached by UV.

    Regarding SECR carriage livery, I meant both in historic and preservation eras. I do not recall any questioning of what colour it was, unlike the case with LSWR carriage livery where there have been arguments over "correct" shades. The upper "salmon" panels were described by Hamilton Ellis as "a sort of brownish-pink that grew browner with age" and as "like tinned salmon when quite new, they weathered into a terracotta brown".
     
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  3. burnham-t

    burnham-t New Member

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    The Kentish brown and ivory livery was only used in the very early days of the old company. For most of its existence, four- and six-wheelers were brownish and bogie carriages were some shade of darkish green, either weathered Southern livery or what was described as bottle green.
     
    burnham-t, 10. Lipanj 2022.
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  4. Robin Moira White

    Robin Moira White Resident of Nat Pres

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    An interesting delivery to the Docklands Light Railway Depot at Poplar today. Magnificent co-operative working by the Kent & East Sussex Railway, The Terrier Trust, DLR operators KAD, Transport for London and a number of others to bring a real steam loco to Tower Hamlets for a series of National Lottery funded school visits to the loco over the coming fortnight and public access on 18/19 June.

    Public access booking via K&ESR website:
    https://shop.myonlinebooking.co.uk/kesr/buyavail.aspx?tid=62

    Photo: Brian Richards

    Poplar at Canary Wharf.jpg
     
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    Robin Moira White, 11. Lipanj 2022.
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  5. Hando

    Hando New Member

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    Will Poplar be running on the line? If so, one could argue the DLR would finally become a true Light Railway, as opposed to a Light Rail system with a longer name! :D
     
    Hando, 11. Lipanj 2022.
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  6. pmh_74

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    Poplar in Poplar, I like it!


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    pmh_74, 12. Lipanj 2022.
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  7. Robin Moira White

    Robin Moira White Resident of Nat Pres

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    Just need to fit the Ringfield motor and the altered electrical pick ups...
     
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  8. Spitfire

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    IMG_3853.JPG A Victorian masterpiece in 21st century surroundings . . .

    Today was the first day of a week-long event made possible with support from the National Lottery Heritage Fund and lottery players during which The Terrier, K&ESR and DLR will engage 800 school children from Tower Hamlets.

    There limited places available for public visits at the weekend (18/19 June) but they must be booked in advance - see the events section of www.Terrier150.co.uk for full details.
     
    Spitfire, 15. Lipanj 2022.
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  9. goldfish

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    I’m no expert, but I suspect there might be some struggles with both bends and slopes…
     
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  10. richards

    richards Part of the furniture

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    If you look closely, you can see the electric power contact for the DLR third rail. There's also 25 kettle elements fitted in the boiler. What with the current price of coal, this could be the way forward for preserved railways ...
     
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  11. 35B

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    Possibly, but don't tell me you don't fancy seeing her run from the depot and up through the triangle to Canary Wharf, before reversing and heading to Tower Gateway. Especially if a short rake of 4 wheelers could be found.;)
     
    35B, 16. Lipanj 2022.
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    Reject modernity, embrace tradition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric-steam_locomotive
     
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    There are a couple of pretty fierce 90° bends on the DLR. Allegedly, they're the tightest to be found on anything described as a 'railway' , rather than a tramway (certainly in the UK) and from what I've seen, they come with superelevation to match.

    Dunno how they compare with the (flat) junctions to be found on US "Ells" such as those in NYC or Chicago.
     
    30854, 16. Lipanj 2022.
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  14. Robin Moira White

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    Students from Mayflower Primary School, Tower Hamlets, getting to know ‘Poplar’ at Poplar Depot.

    (Picture taken and shared with permission.)

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    Robin Moira White, 19. Lipanj 2022.
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    Seems to be proving Popular.
     
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    Groan :p
     
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    Paul42, 25. Srpanj 2022.
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    An interesting appointment, and I wish him well in converting his excellent analytical work into delivery on the ground.
     
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    One of the good guys who will have the interest of the line and its' stakeholders at heart.
     
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