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Discussion in 'Heritage Railways & Centres in the UK' started by threelinkdave, Aug 20, 2014.

  1. torgormaig

    torgormaig Part of the furniture Friend

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    I remember the filming at York station in November 1975, only a couple of months after the NRM opened. Here are a couple of shots of the only "stars" that I recognised, namely 790 in steam and 737. Pity the D was propelled by diesel 31272 and not the C Class that carried that number.

    75-11-29 9 copy.jpg 75-11-29 12 copy.jpg

    Some of the coaching stock came from the KWVR.

    Peter
     
  2. D1039

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    And it would never have carried that livery in that period, not with that chimney/tender

    (The trailer for the recently released WW1 Sassoon biopic Benefiction, partly filmed on the SVR, shows the post WW2 LMS set through the window as the train pulls in. The film is RUINED! I confess I’ve included the anachronism in the SVR Wiki page, because I am that sad.)
     
  3. Robin

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    One of my favourites of that type briefly involves the SVR. From "Decline and Fall", BBC 2017. Here's the approach shot with large prairie 5164 (stock footage as it was out of ticket at the time):

    Decline and Fall screenshot 1.jpg

    And here's the next going away shot:
    Decline and Fall screenshot 2.jpg

    Incidentally, I have no information on the locomotive or location in the going away shot (or even if it is real or CGI). Any ideas from the assembled brains here?
     

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    5944 Resident of Nat Pres

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    You mean that's not Victoria Bridge in the background?!

    Double semaphores and right hand running are distinctly German. Loco would appear to be Prussian P8 38 3199.

    [​IMG]

    Boxes on top of the boiler and big air tank on running board match. Location - not a clue! At least it's green...
     
  5. D1039

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    Welcome to your July 2022 edition of Branch Lines
    Welcome to July’s Branch Lines e-newsletter, which you can access at https://www.svrlive.com/bljul22
    You’ll find that this month’s edition is bursting at the seams with news from around the Railway. So why not settle down with a nice glass of something cool, and dive in!
    Lesley and Patrick, co-editors
     
  6. Pete Thornhill

    Pete Thornhill Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Administrator Moderator Friend

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    Another great read as always Patrick.
     
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  7. Matt37401

    Matt37401 Nat Pres stalwart

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    Genuinely lovely to hear a mention of Alan Davies, and Cath Martin at Arley, 2 people who have helped make me the prat I am today
    Matt, (who had the pleasure of working with those lovely people some time ago)
     
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  8. Robin

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    From the SVR website: "Also note that Saturday 16th July will be timetable B, and not C as was originally planned."
     
  9. D1039

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    An additional appeal is underway

    https://www.justgiving.com/campaign/bridgnorth-locomotive-works-flooring

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    The restoration of Bridgnorth Locomotive Works is almost complete and will enable everyone working in the facility to benefit from a lighter, brighter and safer workplace that also requires less energy to run. However, as the project nears completion and light pours into the facility, the state of the concrete floor has become an increasing concern.

    Coating the 1,200 m2 surface with epoxy resin will not only enhance the floor visually, so it won't detract from the freshly painted walls and steelwork, but it will also further increase the safety of the facility. A more robust surface will prevent spills from contaminating the concrete and provide a surface that can be cleaned and kept in good condition, reducing slip hazards. Walkways and fire exits can also be marked out. In addition, the red coating will help reduce glare when welding.

    An epoxy resin surface will have triple the life span of a standard sealed concrete finish when cared for well, reducing maintenance costs in the long term. Paid staff and volunteers are happy to help care for the surface to maximise its life span and keep everyone safe.

    The team feels so strongly that this is the right solution that they have already pledged £3,000 toward the costs. However, we urgently need to raise the additional £12,000 needed by 31st July so that the floor can be coated before machinery, equipment and locomotives are moved back in. There will not be a second chance because epoxy resin cannot be laid once the facility is full and once the surface has been contaminated by inevitable spills, as it would not stick.

    Please help us raise the funds needed for this special floor to keep the team who look after locomotives extra safe.
     
  10. Pete Thornhill

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    I must admit I’m a little surprised nobody looked at that as part of the original appeal.

    Hopefully the money is raised though.
     
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  12. Southernman99

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    It has been an adhoc last minute decision once the cladding, crane and new roof had been done. The floor let the side down. It wasnt considered because it was thought to be in good enough condition.
     
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    Fair enough, I just thought the epoxy resin may have been considered worthwhile doing as part of the original appeal.
     
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    It was only when we were invited inside to see progress and the completiong of the crane install that it showed up like a sore thumb. The new cladding, new roof, new painted steels, freshly painted crane, new concrete in alot of places. Only then the penny dropped. I wouldnt say it was an oversight but I do agree, and hindsight is a wonderful thing, that it should have been part of the overall project because it is very unlikely we will ever get this opportunity again.
     
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    If the appeal doesn't bring in enough in the very short time available there would be a very good case for borrowing the money from somewhere.
     
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    The Charitable Trust generally manages to make things happen one way or another. Obviously the more they can get via donations with Gift Aid added, the better, but I'm sure they will have a fall-back approach to cover any shortfall. I'm glad to see they are over 60% of the way there already, despite it being a relatively low-publicity appeal.
     
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    I would have donated but not since the Shareholder debacle.
     
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    Likewise. I travelled on the railway recently. I would always gladly add a donation. Not this time. <BJ>
     
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    For those without context, is there a post somewhere that would explain the Shareholder debacle?
    thanks!
     
  20. Robin

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    Several pages of discussion further back on this thread. An emotive topic, but as one of those affected, I'll try to give an objective overview.

    If you buy shares in the SVR, you make a donation to the railway, in exchange for which you receive a benefit in the form of free travel. Above a certain level (formerly £1,200) that included unlimited free travel.

    Share offer documents always state that the level of that benefit may change over time (although it's obvious from what's been said at the last two AGMs that some people don't read or understand the terms and conditions before investing). For various reasons the benefit levels had not been revised for more than 10 years. That had two effects. Some longstanding shareholders had got comfortable and forgotten that levels could change. More recently, the required level of investment had become so low that people were starting to look at shareholding as buying a season ticket rather than its true purpose of making a donation.

    After more than 10 years, the SVR clearly needed to reset benefit levels for those making new investments and ultimately for existing shareholders also. What they did incredibly badly was communicate the reason for the change or make any apology for it. The message given to shareholders was effectively "we've found out that a load of free travel is happening and we're going to stop it". They didn't actually use the word "freeloaders" but most of us took it that way. For what it's worth, I think they recognise that they got the communication badly wrong, and apologies for the tone used have since been made at the AGM and in writing to those like me who complained.

    The proposed revision was to increase the minimum shareholding eligible for free travel from £1,200 up to £2,000 in two steps over 2 years. The first step has been implemented, the second is currently on hold pending the result of a review process which began as the result of a demonstration of considerable ill feeling at last year's AGM (this year's AGM was a little more muted, I suspect only because that process is still ongoing).

    My personal view is that the new level is probably reasonable for first time investors, but it obviously means existing shareholders would need to make a large additional donation to preserve their current unlimited travel benefit, including many who had invested only recently, and many have opted not to do so. In theory the SVR could have implemented the change on new shareholdings but to a different extent on existing shareholdings, but they have not opted to take that approach.
     
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