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7027 Thornbury Castle

Rasprava u 'Steam Traction' pokrenuta od svrhunt, 18. Siječanj 2015..

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  1. Jimc

    Jimc Part of the furniture

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    IIRC without looking it up there was supposed to be less trouble with the tube plate. Presumably this was observed in superheated boilers. Superheating was quite widely fitted to the pre group 0-6-0PTs as well as tender classes with the P boiler but was being removed again from the tank classes by the time the 57s were introduced.
     
    Jimc, 30. Kolovoz 2022.
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    daveannjon Well-Known Member

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    Surely dummy superheater elements would burn away in short order?
    Dave
     
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    Dont think they have to go all the way to the Firebox end.. or can unused flue tubes can be fully/partially blanked off as an interim ?
     
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    Agreed. Two S/H elements isn't going to be much use!
     
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    We're talking about flues, not superheater elements.
     
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    They never go all the way to the firebox end. Four-row superheater elements were shorter then three-row. Blanking them off could be dangerous.
     
    RAB3L, 30. Kolovoz 2022.
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  7. Sidmouth

    Sidmouth Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Moderator

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    Not quite I think the boiler of 44901 was sold to Ian before the group took it over . Boiler I think had a monel stayed firebox and was in reasonable condition . Rather like the acquisition of the boiler from 92245 before it got sectioned for display

    The plan was an 8F boiler from Turkey as the group , or those active within it had access to a potential replacement in Turkey from an 8F
     
    Sidmouth, 30. Kolovoz 2022.
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  8. Jimc

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    Superheated P class boilers typically had a single row of 6 flue tubes, and 48 or 36 elements.
     
    Jimc, 30. Kolovoz 2022.
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    So what has happened to this plan to acquire a Turkish 8F boiler?

    Peter
     
    torgormaig, 30. Kolovoz 2022.
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    Waylaid by rumours of a Dean Goods in the area, perhaps? ;)
     
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  11. Matt37401

    Matt37401 Nat Pres stalwart

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    Is this the one from China? :p
     
    Matt37401, 31. Kolovoz 2022.
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    I'm not sure matters have been helped by potentially fragmentation of the group. If the same proponents were involved in the VoBR scheme
     
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    Greenway, 6. Rujan 2022.
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    GWR4707, 6. Rujan 2022.
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    So no new build Star project then. Excellent, that is at least a start toward Thornbury's survival. A minor victory for preservation, but still the removal of the boiler hangs over both Thornbury and the 4709 group badly.
     
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    No, and the 4709 project haven't upset people there!
     
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    Its going to be intersting to see how this pans out, I see the GWS CEO is again wading in on Facebook, I would suggest he bears in mind the recent outcomes relating to the GM of Avanti and social media....
     
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    I don't do FB, so haven't seen. But the quote in RailAdvent is pretty clear.
     
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    Not fitted yet but the plan for 44901 is to use an 8f boiler, although admittedly not heard much about the project for quite a long time.
     
    Pete Thornhill, 6. Rujan 2022.
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  20. class8mikado

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    By the way, can anyone advise what the current state of restoration Thornbury Castle is in;
    Does it have a Bogie ?
    Motion ? Tender?
    Have the frame plates, between frame castings / wheels,tyres, pins/ boiler been surveyed and or tested for condition ?
    Is there a collection of cab and boiler fittings ?

    Has anywork other than cleaning and painting been done ?
    Have any components been made ? restored?

    Think i would have much more sympathy with the ' but it was going to be restored (wasnt it?)' lobby if some idea of the work done /funded was a bit more out there.
     
    class8mikado, 6. Rujan 2022.
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