If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

West Somerset Railway General Discussion

Discussion in 'Heritage Railways & Centres in the UK' started by gwr4090, Nov 15, 2007.

  1. Nantyglo

    Nantyglo New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2022
    Messages:
    52
    Likes Received:
    159
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Hampshire
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    “Final Tablet
    Constantly guard against a Board where good people are leaving, power is concentrated and exercised by the chair; and key appointments go to a select few. Be aware of the risk created by telling rather than consulting; key decisions being made by small select groups; and popular projects winning over essential projects.”

    A bitter pill to swallow at the WSR?
     
    bishdunster likes this.
  2. twr12

    twr12 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2007
    Messages:
    1,557
    Likes Received:
    725
    Do any of the 12 Tablets deal with what I deem, “accumulated executive authority” ?
     
  3. 35B

    35B Nat Pres stalwart

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2011
    Messages:
    25,705
    Likes Received:
    24,257
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Grantham
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    No. 12 deals with that - which is basic good business practice and given some current threads, relevant to Minehead, Loughborough, Pickering and Didcot alike, to name but 4
     
    The Dainton Banker likes this.
  4. gwilialan

    gwilialan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2012
    Messages:
    1,673
    Likes Received:
    3,951
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Out there somewhere
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I wonder if had dealings with any particular railway who became the role model for this? ;):)
    (I guess he's also had his ID badge withdrawn now... :rolleyes:)
     
    Nantyglo likes this.
  5. gwilialan

    gwilialan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2012
    Messages:
    1,673
    Likes Received:
    3,951
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Out there somewhere
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Sadly I think you could also add quite a few of the smaller railways and narrow gage ones as well. :(
     
  6. Woof Mk2

    Woof Mk2 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2015
    Messages:
    290
    Likes Received:
    218
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Padstow
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Not just smaller ones
     
  7. RailWest

    RailWest Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2011
    Messages:
    3,854
    Likes Received:
    7,572
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    West Country
  8. Matt37401

    Matt37401 Nat Pres stalwart

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2014
    Messages:
    15,428
    Likes Received:
    11,788
    Occupation:
    Nosy aren’t you?
    Location:
    Nowhere
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Hmm, Let the froth begin, but surely a favour from somewhere like the SVR, LSL or SDR can’t be called in?
     
    malcolm imps likes this.
  9. flying scotsman123

    flying scotsman123 Resident of Nat Pres

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2013
    Messages:
    10,464
    Likes Received:
    18,021
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Cheltenham
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Really feel for @SebWelsh and his team, must be very disappointing, no doubt a lot of hard work had gone into that.
     
  10. Kje7812

    Kje7812 Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2010
    Messages:
    2,666
    Likes Received:
    1,057
    Location:
    Kidderminster/ York
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Had any guests been announced?
    Oh well, this solves the issue of what I'm going to do that weekend with it also being the SVR diesel gala. Sad situation though.
     
  11. Ben Jenden

    Ben Jenden Member

    Joined:
    May 27, 2019
    Messages:
    876
    Likes Received:
    639
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Croydon
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    80078 was announced a few weeks ago
     
    malcolm imps likes this.
  12. 1472

    1472 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2008
    Messages:
    1,904
    Likes Received:
    2,521
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I think you would find that no stones were left unturned.

    But perhaps folk need to adjust to a new reality of higher costs pretty well all round affecting transport, coal, energy at least. It is also pretty clear that discretionary spend is understandably well down for many. Add in a growing shortage of available steam motive power and the decision is understandable.
     
  13. Paulthehitch

    Paulthehitch Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2020
    Messages:
    1,090
    Likes Received:
    1,093
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Hayling Island
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Sounds as if some thought is actually manifesting. Good! It is disappointing for those who have put effort in though.
     
    Another Yorkshireman likes this.
  14. Matt37401

    Matt37401 Nat Pres stalwart

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2014
    Messages:
    15,428
    Likes Received:
    11,788
    Occupation:
    Nosy aren’t you?
    Location:
    Nowhere
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    I’m not trying to be sarky or negative, but for example 9351’s heading up to Kidderminster, could there not be a reciprocal arrangement that might have helped?
    I totally get that with how things are going cloth is going to be cut very much accordingly, and I really don’t want to knock anyone trying to organise a special event at the moment, as I’m currently liaising regarding an event next May.
    As I say I really don’t mean to knock anyone involved because I know how thankless putting on events like this can be.
     
    Last edited: Sep 1, 2022
    malcolm imps likes this.
  15. brennan

    brennan Member

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2016
    Messages:
    245
    Likes Received:
    295
    Location:
    Gloucester
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    I have just received a copy of the 2022 report and financial statements for the WSR. The trading loss for the year ended 31/03/22 is £316,442. Perhaps this may be a reason for caution on the part of the board.
     
    The Dainton Banker likes this.
  16. Robin

    Robin Well-Known Member Friend

    Joined:
    May 7, 2012
    Messages:
    1,399
    Likes Received:
    1,750
    Location:
    Stourbridge
    2857 and 75069 were both down at the WSR in May, so I guess 9351 is the reciprocal arrangement for one or both of those.
     
  17. 46229

    46229 New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2017
    Messages:
    58
    Likes Received:
    158
    Location:
    Toddington
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    This. The new reality is huge cost increases all round coupled with a parallel reduction in discretionary spend affecting revenue and galas will be the first casualty given their high cost base. The increases in energy costs will be crippling for many railways this winter and most will be in a fight for survival. A very sensible decision IMO.
     
    Greenway likes this.
  18. jamesd

    jamesd Member

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2009
    Messages:
    603
    Likes Received:
    303
    Location:
    S Wales
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    One of the reasons cited is poor advanced ticket sales. I would more than likely gone to this gala but I certainly wouldn’t have bought a ticket yet, just in case something prevented me from going. If this is going to be one the norm then my gala visits may be numbered.
     
    MattA, Spitfire and Cuckoo Line like this.
  19. Kje7812

    Kje7812 Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2010
    Messages:
    2,666
    Likes Received:
    1,057
    Location:
    Kidderminster/ York
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    For the WSR spring steam and diesel galas this year, I brought online the day before as I wasn't sure I would be able to go much in advance, plus this summer/autumn there is the spectre of rail strikes (though it appears that the WSR would have escaped that with the ASG unlike the SVR).
     
  20. Snifter

    Snifter Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2014
    Messages:
    1,628
    Likes Received:
    4,210
    Gender:
    Male
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    A very interesting set of numbers. Page 53 records that in the last 2 years, some £105k has been spent on legal and professional fees. That will not have helped. A further £96k was spent on coach hire, presumably to connect Dunster to Minehead.

    Page 7 is encouraging in that a use for the Washford yard is expected to be decided by the end of the 2023 financial year i.e. March 2024.
     

Share This Page