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Fowler/Stanier Patriot Class

Discussion in 'Photography' started by neildimmer, Sep 5, 2022.

  1. neildimmer

    neildimmer Resident of Nat Pres

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    Collection of photos of Fowlers Patriot class, numerous examples were rebuilt under Stanier
    This collection features Fowler Patriots with original Pre 1934 LMS numbering

    Including this photo of
    6000 Crewe Works 16th July 1933 (later renumbered 5538 and named Giggleswick)
    https://tinyurl.com/5n8mvyu8

    Full collection of over 35 photos starts here with
    5902 Sir Frank Ree (loco carried this name till 1937 then renumbered 5501 & renamed St Dunstans)
    https://tinyurl.com/2dj5cwdc
    to
    6026
    https://tinyurl.com/ycx6ctm2

    Neil
     
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    Fred Kerr Resident of Nat Pres Friend

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    2 / 37 = Birmingham New Street

    6 / 37 = Kentish Town shed ?

    16 / 37 = Kentish Town ?

    31 / 37 = Elstree
     
  3. neildimmer

    neildimmer Resident of Nat Pres

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    Collection of photos of Fowlers Patriot class, numerous examples were rebuilt under Stanier
    This collection features Fowler Patriots with post 1934 LMS numbering

    Including this photo of
    5551 at Crewe
    https://tinyurl.com/yhy6mssf

    Full collection of 95 photos starts here with
    5500 Croxteth before being renamed Patriot
    https://tinyurl.com/mupwhcpc

    Neil
     
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    Fred Kerr Resident of Nat Pres Friend

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    450 / 95 = Elstree

    60 / 95 = Crewe North shed [duplicates 61/95

    65 / 95 = St Pancras / Cambridge St

    66 / 95 = Camden

    68 /95 Elstree ?

    93 / 95 = Dillicar troughs

    95 / 95 = Manchester to Euston service surely ?
     
  5. neildimmer

    neildimmer Resident of Nat Pres

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    Collection of photos of Fowlers Patriot class, numerous examples were rebuilt under Stanier

    This collection features Fowler Patriots in the B.R. era 45500+45501 Built 1930

    Including this photo taken on Crewe works of
    45501 St Dunstan’s minus tender
    https://tinyurl.com/yc6ua77k
    photos of 45500 Patriot start here
    https://tinyurl.com/4b66tdst
    photos of 45501 St Dunstan’s start here
    https://tinyurl.com/mrya47ys

    Neil
     
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    neildimmer Resident of Nat Pres

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    Collection of photos of Fowlers Patriot class, numerous examples were rebuilt under Stanier
    This collection features Fowler Patriots in the B.R. era 45502-45516 Built 1932

    Including this photo by Tony Gillett of
    45515 Caernarvon passes 42461 departing from Preston station 14th June 1961
    https://tinyurl.com/yc6uyavm

    Full collection of over 125 photos starts here with
    45502 Royal Naval Division at Carlisle
    https://tinyurl.com/mv78mtcu
    to
    45516 The Bedfordshire and Hertfordshire Regiment Southampton Docks on a special Troop train 17th February 1950. The loco travelled to Southampton Docks to haul a troop train of men of the regiment
    https://tinyurl.com/mte7k5hs

    Neil
     
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    Romsey Part of the furniture

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    Hi Neil,

    A couple of locations
    18/125 45504 Bristol Temple Meads
    125/125 45516 Euston?

    Cheers, Neil
     
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    Fred Kerr Resident of Nat Pres Friend

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    2v/ 125 = Tebay [ Duplicates 6 / 125

    26 / 125 = Preston [Duplicates 32 / 125
    33 / 125 = As above

    42 / 125 = Bangor ?

    48 / 125 = Approaching Leyland heading north [Duplicates 53 / 125

    60 / 125 = Trafford Park [Duplicates 64 and 64 / 125

    62 / 125 = Greenholme

    68 / 125 = Greenholme [Duplicate of 62/125

    125 / 125 Agree Euston
     
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    neildimmer Resident of Nat Pres

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    Collection of photos of Fowlers Patriot class, numerous examples were rebuilt under Stanier

    This collection features Fowler Patriots in the B.R. era 45517-45541 Built 1933

    Including this colour photo by Tony Gillett of
    45533 Lord Rathmore & 45549 Preston shed 4th October 1962
    https://tinyurl.com/4v7ddxrs

    Full collection of over 95 photos starts here
    45517 at York
    https://tinyurl.com/52mb6h69
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    45541
    https://tinyurl.com/2p9anjp7

    Neil
     
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    12 / 99 = Query; this seems to duplicate 4 / 89 said to be at Bank Hall shed.

    20 / 99 = Liverpool Pier Head ?

    70 / 99 = approaching Tebay ?
     
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    marshall5 Well-Known Member

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    This is one of the late Jim Peden's photos. The empty stock? of a boat train has just left the MDHB Riverside station, is crossing the entrance to Princes Dock and about to go under the LOR, seen in the top rhs of the photo. Sorry don't have a date for it but c.1957.
    Ray.
     
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    neildimmer Resident of Nat Pres

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    Collection of photos of Fowlers Patriot class, numerous examples were rebuilt by LMS/B.R.

    This collection features Fowler Patriots in the B.R. era 45542-45551 Built 1934

    Including this lucky catch
    Patriot 45551, and Jubilee 45552 Silver Jubilee
    https://tinyurl.com/yc54br95
    and this colour photo by Tony Gillett of
    45542 pilots Jubilee 45700 Amethyst out of Preston Station 14th April 1961
    https://tinyurl.com/yxc87st4

    Full collection of 85 photos starts here with
    45542
    https://tinyurl.com/yhkwfxa6
    To
    45551
    https://tinyurl.com/4nc5c587

    Neil
     
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    32 / 85 = Birmingham New Street

    46 / 85 = Watford Junction ? [cf 44/85

    66/85 = Dillicar Troughs on southbound freight through Lune Gorge
     
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    neildimmer Resident of Nat Pres

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    Collection of photos of LMS/B.R. rebuilt Patriot class

    The London Midland and Scottish Railway (LMS), Rebuilt Patriot Class was a class of 4-6-0 steam locomotives. They were rebuilt from LMS Patriot Class locomotives (which were the fourth type of LMS 2A boilered 4-6-0 locomotives) over the period 1946–1949. By the end of 1947, the LMS had rebuilt seven engines, these being 5514/21/26/29–31/40. After nationalisation, a further eleven locomotives were rebuilt. Rebuilt locomotives retained their numbers
    Rebuilding
    Between 1946 and 1949 eighteen LMS Patriot Class engines were rebuilt with Stanier 2A boiler, cab and tender, though these were largely paper rebuilds, based on the LMS Rebuilt Royal Scot Class. Seven (Nos 5514/21/6/9-31/40) had been rebuilt by the start of 1948 when British Railways inherited them. In March 1948 BR added 40000 to their numbers to number them 45514/21/6/9-31/40. Subsequently, BR rebuilt another 11 of the Patriots, so that the rebuilt engines were (4)5512/14/21–23/25–32/34–36/45. The two original members of the class, and the first ten of the nominal rebuilds, were not rebuilt due to their non-standard parts.

    This collection features LMS/B.R. rebuilt locos :
    45521+45530 rebuilt in 1946

    Photos of 45521 Rhyl start here

    45521 Rhyl alongside 71000 Duke of Gloucester at Preston (Tony Gillett)
    https://tinyurl.com/yr4wtwsp

    photos of 45530 Sir Frank Ree start here

    45530 Sir Frank Ree at Carnforth (Tony Gillett)
    https://tinyurl.com/43d7y65y

    Neil
     
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    13 / 40 = Euston
     
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    Collection of photos of LMS/B.R. rebuilt Patriot class

    This collection features LMS/B.R. rebuilt locos :
    45514/45526/45529/45531 & 45540 rebuilt 1947

    Including this photo of
    45531 Sir Frederick Harrison at Tebay not yet fitted with smoke deflectors
    https://tinyurl.com/5edwczj3

    Full collection of over 80 photos start here with
    45514 Holyhead arrives at London Euston
    https://tinyurl.com/bddmewbw
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    45540 Sir Robert Turnbull
    https://tinyurl.com/5n7ydpd7

    Neil
     
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    19 / 81 = Dillicar troughs

    23 / 981 = Preston

    25 / 81 = Watford Junction

    27 / 81 = Carlisle awaiting next duty

    77 / 81 = Birmingham New St

    78 / 81 = Watford departure
     
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    Collection of photos of LMS/B.R. rebuilt Patriot class

    This collection features LMS/B.R. rebuilt locos :
    45512/45523/45525/45527/45528 rebuilt 1948

    Including this colour photo by Tony Gillett of 45512 Bunsen at Preston 20th April 1961
    https://tinyurl.com/3rbtd89c

    Full collection of over 55 photos starts here with
    45512 Bunsen
    https://tinyurl.com/ymum4k73
    45523 Bangor
    https://tinyurl.com/335ukxhp
    45525 Colwyn Bay
    https://tinyurl.com/26vr84hu
    45527 Southport
    https://tinyurl.com/23bsvy8v
    45528 R E M E
    https://tinyurl.com/yfjt427b

    Neil
     
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    13 / 57 = Blackpool South ?

    31 / 57 = Rugby departure on an up express [Northampton line in background ?

    57 / 57 = Birmingham New St = Northbound departure ?
     
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    Collection of photos of LMS/B.R. rebuilt Patriot class

    This collection features LMS/B.R. rebuilt locos :
    45532/45534/45535/45536/45545 rebuilt 1948

    Including 3 new photos
    45545 Planet & 42617 outside Crewe works paint shop 1953
    https://tinyurl.com/34bcn2ue
    45535 Sir Herbert Walker K.C.B. Shap August 1953
    https://tinyurl.com/5n76pffh
    45534 E. Tootal Broadhurst Willesden 1959
    https://tinyurl.com/y7sttmab

    Full collections start here with
    45532 Illustrious
    https://tinyurl.com/3yn8uf2r
    45534 E. Tootal Broadhurst
    https://tinyurl.com/79579asc
    45535 Sir Herbert Walker K.C.B.
    https://tinyurl.com/ywrrn5r2
    45536 Private W. Wood V.C.
    https://tinyurl.com/3v4xkwas
    45545 Planet
    https://tinyurl.com/59e2xree

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