Ukraine ?

As Ukraine is suffering with a power black-out,
Would it make any sense to send unwanted Diesel-electric locomotives as generators ?
Or is this a silly idea ?

 

No need to send them if there already unused diesel loco already in mainland Europe.

 

Appeal to donate retired buses to Ukraine

https://ciltuk.org.uk/News/Latest-News/ArtMID/6887/ArticleID/36992/Donate-retired-buses-to-Ukraine

Cheers, Neil

 

The Ukraine is mostly Russian Gauge so it would not be possible to move them into most of the Country that easily.

On a number of occasions 47's were used to provide power in wait for it power stations, I believe to replace faulty exciters

 

Wouldn't there be a problem with UK buses having the door on the 'wrong' side i.e. disembarking passengers into the traffic?

 

Ex London vehicles operated in Yugoslavia for many years without any problem and even some Plymouth double-deckers ended up in Warsaw just after the end of WW2 !
Presumably the biggest problem in the Ukraine at the moment is the size of the trolleybus operations (and to a lesser extent, trams) in the Country, which are unable to operate if the electric supply system is being destroyed.

 

Drive them backwards ...

Tom

 

Would sending them paraffin heaters as winter deepens be a better idea? It gets damned cold in Ukraine in winter.

 

Angle grinder…

 

Even though the Ukraine gauge is different, it would surely not be difficult or lengthy to mount the bodies on a crude, purpose-built low-loader - they don't have to be moved by rail?

 

So assuming they need AC - what else would be needed ?

 

Most modern traction is 3-phase AC. The issue is that it's not 50 Hz.

 

For those interested in that type of thing this MLW did the job in Canada.

https://steemit.com/history/@kiligi...rt-5-postscript-what-happened-in-my-home-town

 

I've linked the image because I can't be bothered to rehost it, but in this photo M420W 3502 is on a road, not on track.

I can't help thinking that Ukraine can manage these things on its own without some shonky British locos to help though

 

Ultimately, why send a box with 66 xxx on the side when you can send a box with Aggreko* on the side. The difference being is that the latter is much more usable.

*Other large generator hire companies are available.

 

This is a genuine question, to which I don't know the answer - how common are industrial generators with an output equivalent to that of a diesel loco? I cant imagine they are particularly common.

 

Picking Aggreko as an example, their largest generator in a container appears to be 1200kVA.

I'm interested in the work one company does that seems to take redundant locomotive equipment and turn them into generators - I believe that the IDRS have experience with them.

 

For simple souls like me, what does a type 4 diesel produce in kVA terms?