P2 Locomotive Company and related matters

Sorry, should go 1,2,3,5,4.
It's on this page
https://m.facebook.com/groups/1407030846180541/?locale=en_GB

 

To me its sounds like the excuse is going to be , " it's because of the S&D celebrations, " that no work is being done on the P2, that in turn will lead to the questions of where is the money for the S&D work coming from, and what is the army input, and again who is paying? I can guess the answer in time coming out in 2025-6
I am far from convinced that 60163 will be trouble free, on its next mainline career and at some stage might have to have further remedial work on it, and the trust will instead be pursuing military facing adventures because they enable the chairman to play importance,

I fear that in 2026, the trust will have 60163 sidelined, needing additional work, with little, or no funding, and the incomplete P2 still waiting for its boiler, and still needing to be finished, again with not enough funding to do anything and all the while, the board are focused on some far-flung military connection that has nothing to do with what it was set up to do.

 

Ah thanks. I hadn’t gone back that far Mike.

 

In all fairness, I do admire their patience with people asking why they are still doing the other P2...

 

"center".

For heaven's sake...

 

I thought the "other" P2 was dead and buried?

 

Company's still active, in fact they filed a Confirmation Statement in September.

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/07391363

 

Now it's more of an open question as to who finishes first...

 

Martin the optimist…

 

Or perhaps being the realist, 60163 has an one off prototypical new electrical installation, and it's had to be interfaced with existing systems, there are issues with the repair work on the boiler, and if that's created any stress problems within the rest of the boiler, these will become clear if there are issues only once the engine has had extended running at mainline speeds, hauling a heavy load, there is a lot of uncertainty about what the committees direction is, loco building and operation, seems to have fallen down the scale, in favour of what, looks to be at best a distraction into military charities and other areas that are not what the A1 trust was set up to be.

 

And how many of us will still be alive by then.

 

You've said the quiet bit out loud.

 

In any project like this things can go wrong but what is unforgivable is to then lie to the supporters and that’s happened on more than one occasion. The final straw for me was when they blamed the boiler inspector for the delay in steaming it after they had cancelled his visit when further issues had been identified. It’s just a personal opinion but I think they are I desperate need of another David Elliot to sort out the engineering side and another Mark Allatt to get the funding back on track.

 

Aren't they using squaddies to lay the track at Bona Omi* Way?

*gratuitous Round The Horne reference.

 

So it sohuld be a hive of activity, 2025 isn't far away...thgere was the square root of stuff all going on last week, not what I'd expect

 

Indeed...

 

Whats this? I need to catch up a bit here, Iv missed whatever this is referring to?

 

From here: https://www.a1steam.com/Portals/0/TCC 72 - Spring Summer_WEB.pdf

Under From the Chair by Mr Davis, he states that delivery of the P2's boiler in imminent.

 

I think a large pinch of salt is needed with every statement by Mr Davis

 

I think there has been so much disappointment, lack of clarity, obfuscation, bluster, etc. surrounding both of the Trust's locos that we need to reserve judgement and comment until/if we see clear evidence of progress. The loco will be ready for main line work when we see it happening, not when we are told it will. Similarly, only when we see photos of the P2 boiler being lifted onto the frames will we understand what "imminent" means.