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Bulleid Pacifics - Past or Present

Rasprava u 'Steam Traction' pokrenuta od 34007, 13. Svibanj 2008..

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  1. RAB3L

    RAB3L Member

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    SNCF removed the syphons from many 141Rs and found that fuel efficiency improved. They also did so with the 141Ps and found the opposite effect!
     
    RAB3L, 11. Veljača 2025.
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  2. Hermod

    Hermod Well-Known Member

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    141 P189 was tested 11jan-4feb 1955 with Syphon and without 26 april-25 may.
    Do you know if there is a public report?
    I read french.
     
    Hermod, 11. Veljača 2025.
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  3. RAB3L

    RAB3L Member

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    Not before TIA was fitted. Until then MN fireboxes only lasted about five years. No other BR boilers had TIA, so it's not a reasonable comparison.
     
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  4. std tank

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    The Standard 5 4-6-0s 73080-89 and 73110-19 were originally fitted with TIA water softening apparatus. This was later replaced by the standard BR method using briquettes.
     
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  5. RAB3L

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    It would make sense because they were all SR locomotives but I cannot find any reference for this. This,of course, doesn't mean that it didn't happen but it would be good to have a reference.
     
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  6. std tank

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    RCTS book B.R. Standard Locomotives Volume 2.
    Also, in 1958, Annesley 9F 92088 was fitted with TIA as an experiment. Ref RCTS book B.R. Standard Locomotives Volume 4 and seven SL/DE drawings.
     
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    std tank, 12. Veljača 2025.
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  7. ruddingtonrsh56

    ruddingtonrsh56 Well-Known Member

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    Excuse my ignorance, but could somebody clarify what the Acronym TIA stands for? I'm guessing in this context it isn't Thanks In Advance!
     
    ruddingtonrsh56, 12. Veljača 2025.
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  8. std tank

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    Traitement Integrale Armand. It is French.
     
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  9. The Gricing Owl

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    Whatever it is, maybe it would be better off on a thread of its own?

    Bryan
     
    The Gricing Owl, 12. Veljača 2025.
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  10. std tank

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    Why? It is all to do with Bulleids.
     
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  11. The Gricing Owl

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    To me it seemed it was heading into a technical area that was starting to take it away away from Bulleids. And I just asked the question, no more than that.

    Bryan - best if I stay with my BR lined black obsession- except for Bulleids of course - B ;)
     
    The Gricing Owl, 12. Veljača 2025.
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  12. Groks212

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    Maybe if you stopped using acronyms in posts ,then us lesser mortals who have less knowledge of locomotives would understand more.:confused:

    Dave B
     
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  13. std tank

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    I was one of the lesser mortals about TIA until the question was asked above. I then took the time to check and answer it.
     
    std tank, 12. Veljača 2025.
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  14. Spamcan81

    Spamcan81 Nat Pres stalwart

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    Would you have been any wiser if the OP had put Traitement Integrale Armand instead of TIA?
     
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  15. MellishR

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    Fair question. Someone who had not met "TIA" probably wouldn't have met the full name either. I was one of those who did already know what TIA stands for in the context of steam locomotives (and might not have thought of Thanks In Advance in some other context). But then "the obvious is what one learnt yesterday".

    We all tend to use abbreviations without stopping to think whether anyone will be bewildered. When one does meet an unfamiliar one a quick Google is often sufficient to reveal the meaning, but sometimes Google finds several possible meanings, none of which makes any sense in the particular context.
     
    MellishR, 12. Veljača 2025.
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  16. misspentyouth62

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    TIA - Trains In Abundance -Ok, I made assumptions :)
     
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  17. RAB3L

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    Thanks for that. I suppose briquettes were cheaper than installing TIA but the latter would have been superior as it was automatic. All that had to be done was to keep the reservoir full and ensure no air leaks.
     
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  18. alexl102

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    To me a a TIA is a transient ischemic attack... !
     
    alexl102, 13. Veljača 2025.
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  19. 73129

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    The Mid Hants Railway have put a great short YouTube video up about Mertchant Navy’s. It’s worth listening to Bob talking about MN’s plus the opening part of the video has a Bulleid with its whistle in full cry. Gets my vote :)

     
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    73129, 14. Veljača 2025.
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    CH 19, green five, silversteellady i 4 ostalih se sviđa ovo.
  20. Duty Druid

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    A few more from the charter & yesterday......

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/duty_druid/54331464235/in/photostream/

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/duty_druid/54331283113/in/photostream/

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/duty_druid/54331464840/in/photostream/

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/duty_druid/54330168732/in/photostream/

    Oh, and did someone mention a Bulleid in the snow?........ the camera had an absolute hissy fit due to the cold and falling snow - it didn't was to focus or release the shutter & also decided it didn't want to shoot in RAW either!!!

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/duty_...tolist-RkPyv3-23oBb3q-24nrqa9-252JbLK-2bHntkF
     
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