60163 Tornado Tours Sunday 21st June

Has anyone any Times for these tours yet please?

Thanks

Mike M. ( 70 c ) =P~

 

Or even the 21st.

Mike M. ( 70c)

 

Re: 60163 Tornado Tours Sunday 14th June

1Z97 10+37 Waterloo - Botley.
1Z98 13+05 Botley - Waterloo.
1Z82 17+55 Victoria - Folkestone West.
1Z83 21+03 Folkestone West - Victoria.

 

Re: 60163 Tornado Tours Sunday 14th June

That's the Ghost train,June 14th.
The real one,June 21st.Twice surely.

 

Re: 60163 Tornado Tours Sunday 14th June

1Z97 10+37 Waterloo - Botley.
1Z98 13+05 Botley - Waterloo.
1Z82 17+55 Victoria - Folkestone West.
1Z83 21+03 Folkestone West - Victoria.

Many thanks

Mike M. ( 70 c )

 

Re: 60163 Tornado Tours Sunday 14th June

Full timings now on uksteam.info. 39 mins Waterloo to Woking, direct via Surbiton. Looks quite slow as far as Clapham Junction (15 mins) then rather faster (24 mins) to a stop at Woking. For comparison, Clan Line was allowed 9 mins to Clapham Junction on 23rd May, then 22 mins to Woking, but wasn't stopping at Woking.

The return should be quite brisk. For instance, 60163 is allowed only 10 minutes for Havant - Petersfield, compared to 15 for Clan Line last month.

 

Re: 60163 Tornado Tours Sunday 14th June

That's a typo, she's booked 16 mins Havant - Petersfield. The correct time through Petersfield is 13.47 not 13.41.

 

Re: 60163 Tornado Tours Sunday 14th June

Mike,edit the topic of your first post and it will edit the topic of the thread

 

Sorted - Richard.

 

This info is on Wessex Rail Gen today.
Hello All

Tornado very busy on Fathers Day, with a day tour and an evening tour, on two
bits of track she has never touched on before, including Botley and Folkestone
West. A DB Schenker 67 on the e.c.s duties.

5Z97 runs SUN 21/06/09
GRVDSRPBD 09:30
HITHERGRN PASS 09:37
PARKSBDGE PASS 09:39
LEWISHAM PASS 09:41
NUNHEAD PASS 09:45
CROFTNRDJ PASS 09:49
DENMARKHL PASS 09:50
VOLTRRDJN PASS 09:53
LINFDSTJN PASS 09:58
NINEELMSJ PASS 10:03
WATERLOO 10:15

1Z97 runs SUN 21/06/09
WATERLOO 10:37
NINEELMSJ PASS 10:47
QNSTWNRDB PASS 10:49
CLAPHAMJN PASS 10:52
WIMBLEDON PASS 10:59
WIMBDNWJN PASS 11:00
NEWMALDEN PASS 11:03
SURBITON PASS 11:06
HMPTNCTJN PASS 11:07
WOKING 11:16 11:19
WOKING JN PASS 11:20
PIRBGHTJN PASS 11:26
FARNBORO PASS 11:30
FLEET PASS 11:34
BASINSTOK PASS 11:45
WORTINGJN PASS 11:55
WINCHESTR PASS 12:18
SHAWFORD PASS 12:25
EASTLEIGH PASS 12:32
EASTLGHSJ PASS 12:34
BOTLEY 12:42

1Z98 runs SUN 21/06/09
BOTLEY 13:05
FAREHAMNJ PASS 13:11
FAREHAM PASS 13:13
COSHAM PASS 13:23
COSHAM JN PASS 13:24
FLINGTONJ PASS 13:25
HAVANT PASS 13:31
PETERSFLD PASS 13:47
HASLEMERE PASS 14:05
FARNCOMBE PASS 14:15
SHALFRDJN PASS 14:17
GUILDFORD PASS 14:20
WOKING JN PASS 14:27
WOKING 14:28 14:31
HMPTNCTJN PASS 14:43
SURBITON PASS 14:45
NEWMALDEN PASS 14:47
WIMBLEDON PASS 14:50
CLAPHAMJN PASS 14:56
QNSTWNRDB PASS 15:01
NINEELMSJ PASS 15:03
WATERLOO 15:07

5Z98 runs SUN 21/06/09
WATERLOO 15:30
NINEELMSJ PASS 15:35
WLONDONJN PASS 15:41
LATCHMERE PASS 15:43
KENSGTN O 15:53 16:05
LATCHMERE PASS 16:12
LONGHDGJN PASS 16:16
STEWRTSLN PASS 16:18
BATRSEALP 16:21

5Z82 runs SUN 21/06/09
BATRSEALP 17:20
STEWRTSLN 17:24 17:30
GROSVBDGJ PASS 17:33
VICTORIA 17:35

0Z82 runs SUN 21/06/09
VICTORIA 17:55
GROSVBDGJ 17:58 18:00
STEWRTSLN PASS 18:02
LONGHDGJN PASS 18:03
LATCHMERE PASS 18:19
KENSGTN O PASS 18:26
NTHPOLEJN PASS 18:30
MITREBDGJ PASS 18:31
WILSDNWLJ PASS 18:33
WILSDNNO7 PASS 18:35
WEMBLYDSJ PASS 18:36
WEMBLEYYD 18:41

1Z82 runs SUN 21/06/09
VICTORIA 17:55
GROSVBDGJ PASS 17:58
VOLTRRDJN PASS 18:02
DENMARKHL PASS 18:07
CROFTNRDJ PASS 18:08
NUNHEAD PASS 18:10
BELLINGHM PASS 18:15
SHORTLNDJ PASS 18:18
BROMLEY S 18:20 18:23
BICKLEYJN PASS 18:26
STMCRAYJN PASS 18:27
SWANLEY PASS 18:33
FAWKHAMJN PASS 18:41
SOLE ST PASS 18:48
ROCHBDGJN PASS 18:56
GILLNGHMK PASS 19:03
SITTINGBN PASS 19:13
FAVERSHAM PASS 19:24
HERNE BAY PASS 19:40
MARGATE PASS 19:55
RAMSGATE PASS 20:04
MINSTREJN PASS 20:10
SANDWICH PASS 20:17
DEAL PASS 20:23
BUCKLNDJN PASS 20:33
DOVER PRY PASS 20:35
FOLKSTN C PASS 20:47
FOLKSTN W 20:50

1Z83 runs SUN 21/06/09
FOLKSTN W 21:03
SALTWD JN PASS 21:06
ASHFORDI PASS 21:16
HEADCORN PASS 21:26
PADDOCKWD PASS 21:38
TONBRIDGE PASS 21:45
SEVENOAKS PASS 21:57
ORPINGTON PASS 22:08
PETTSWDJC PASS 22:10
BICKLEYJN PASS 22:22
BROMLEY S 22:27 22:31
SHORTLNDJ PASS 22:33
BELLINGHM PASS 22:36
NUNHEAD PASS 22:43
CROFTNRDJ PASS 22:47
DENMARKHL PASS 22:49
VOLTRRDJN PASS 22:53
GROSVBDGJ PASS 22:56
VICTORIA 22:59

0Z83 runs SUN 21/06/09
WEMBLEYYD 22:30
WEMBLYDSJ PASS 22:38
WILSDNNO7 PASS 22:40
WILSDNWLJ PASS 22:43
MITREBDGJ PASS 22:45
NTHPOLEJN PASS 22:46
KENSGTN O PASS 22:49
LATCHMERE PASS 22:54
LONGHDGJN PASS 22:56
STEWRTSLN PASS 22:57
GROSVBDGJ PASS 22:59
VICTORIA 23:01

5Z83 runs SUN 21/06/09
VICTORIA 23:18
GROSVBDGJ PASS 23:20
STEWRTSLN PASS 23:23
LONGHDGJN PASS 23:25
LATCHMERE PASS 23:28
KENSGTN O PASS 23:32
NTHPOLEJN PASS 23:35
MITREBDGJ PASS 23:36
WILSDNWLJ PASS 23:38
WILSDNNO7 PASS 23:40
WEMBLYDSJ PASS 23:41
WEMBLEYYD 23:50

 

A very busy day, but some pretty slow timings. At least one stop to be overhauled included, ie 10 mins Basingstoke to Worting Junction for 2.5 miles. But I said the timings for 35028 were slow, and look what happened there!

One interesting timing. 3 minutes from a Bromley South start to passing Bickey Junction! I've seen trains take 3 minutes to clear the platform at Bromley South before now. Well before now of course. I'm talking 1950s!

 

I've heard that 5Z98 15+30 Waterloo - Battersea Loop will now run via Barnes, Kew East Jn, Willesden SWS to Kensington to turn the loco and train. Can't turn via Clapham Jn and Latchmere reversible due to engineering works on the Ludgate Lines (Claphan Jn (WL) - Longhedge Jn) until 1600 ish on Sunday.)

Regards, Neil

 

Anyone know what the height/width/other issue is that lets an A1 go around Kent, but prevents a Gresley A3 or A4 from doing the same?

 

I may be wrong but I'm sure I read somewhere that 60163 has been built to fit a wider route availability than original LNER Pacifics can.

 

Yes. I've read that as well.

 

I believe that's one reason, of several, why they specified a welded boiler; the outside plating can be fitted more flush onto it.

 

10 down at Woking this morning - and far fewer people out to see it than the first time it came through.

1 photo here:

http://simon71.fotopic.net/p59078291.html

 

I've said this before..the time will come (and very shortly) when only the DieHard enthusiasts will be hanging over bridges and on platforms to see 60163 pass through.

It won't be necessary for 'jobsworth' to even turn out.

Human nature takes it's course-anything new as bright as a button,the place is packed.Then you have the cooling off period.

 

The crowds we have seen so far haven't turned out simply because Tornado was running, they turned out because the Tornado people made sure everyone knew it as running. I think the Tornado PR machine will have the power to pack stations and the lineside when it wishes to for some time to come, especially after tonight's TV programme.

 

Most people will probably be out for the Kent Tours tonight and maybe nip home in enough time to see her on Top Gear. By December Tornado will have been everywhere in Britain. =D>