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Fire Risk and Preserved Lines

本贴由 johnofwessex2025-05-11 发布. 版块名称: Heritage Railways & Centres in the UK

  1. Gladiator 5076

    Gladiator 5076 Resident of Nat Pres

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    I would not agree it is reckless, you need to balance economics against risk and at Swanage there is only about one area I can think of (two fields on the left leaving Corfe in the down direction) where there are any crops. There is of course other sensitive areas such as Corfe Common.
    Perception you can do nothing about, as one of my old bosses used to say "it is not about the truth it is all about perception". If I see smoke when driving down the Valley Road I think which loco started that, if I see a report of a Heath Fire, of which there are many, I think who started that deliberately.
     
  2. Jamessquared

    Jamessquared Nat Pres stalwart

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    Are the rivets 1/3 normal size?

    Tom
     
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    Dead Sheep Member

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    I recall a story from the 1980s, where a farmer made a claim against a heritage railway [I think it was the Nene Valley] for burnt crops. The date of the apparent fire coincided with a diesel weekend. Said farmer received a criminal conviction for fraud.
     
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  4. The Gricing Owl

    The Gricing Owl Well-Known Member

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    By volume no. They are 1/9th by size - limited by my ability to only understand square roots and not cube roots. ;)

    Bryan
     
  5. Gladiator 5076

    Gladiator 5076 Resident of Nat Pres

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    From a perception point of view I think the apparent waste of water is a big risk with the public.
    Whilst Heritage Lines are a business and not subject to hosepipe bans etc, but as we get to more and more areas having bans and subtle pressure from Central Government about individuals taking shorter showers and the like and little apparent pressure from the same people to make water companies to fix their leaks, I can see such things as columns that continually leak or gallons going straight down the drain when the bag is removed not being received well by the public. Add to that those that feel water should not be "wasted" on such things as a few having a ride behind a steam loco it becomes a difficult perception line to walk.
     
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  6. lostlogin

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    While golf clubs, race courses and the likes are still being watered I think the heritage railway will be fairly low down the pecking order in terms of such complaints.
     
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  7. Daddsie71b

    Daddsie71b Member Friend

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    As guard today, one patch of cut hay field certainly burnt opposite Corfe common. . A large amount of fence line (railway side) heather burnt near Afflington. Its interesting to note that the public footpath that runs under bridge 18 has a huge heather fire but some 20 metres from the railway. Dropped cigarette? Whilst being defensive for the railway, I applaud managements decision to run diesels. In my PA announcements, I point out to passengers look left/right to see the charred fields etc as to why we are running diesels.
     
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    Daddsie71b Member Friend

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    Gary, whilst understanding your water social conscience, Brian Langdon once told me that Dorset would never run dry of water because when it rains in Derbyshire the aquifiers fill up the springs in Dorset thanks to the Pennine chain.
     
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  9. mikechant

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    Looks like most of England and Wales will be getting at least some heavy showers this weekend, so hopefully most railways will be able to run steam services (if they were planning to do so).
     
  10. ZBmer

    ZBmer New Member

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    At our local line we've countered complaints by using recycled collected water for steam engine use. Suitably filtered and treated, softened as necessary and with added tannins it works fine
     
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    The water for the Talyllyn at Dolgoch and the old watering point on the extension comes straight from the hillside so probably over 50% not from the mains.
     
  12. 73108

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    The obvious retort is "But what if there's a drought in Derbyshire?" :Bucktooth:
     
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  13. Romsey

    Romsey Part of the furniture

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    Which is good for the local boilers not having added chlorine and other chemicals.

    Cheers, Neil
     
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    mdewell Well-Known Member Friend

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    They should write to Dorset and ask for their water back. :D
     
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    Romsey Part of the furniture

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    There was a variation on that from the early days of the return to steam on the South Western. ( Many years ago when common sense was permitted and there was no tracking or Key Performance Indicators for complaints!)

    A lineside fire was reported by a steam special and duly the fire brigade turned up and trains were cautioned past the location. Within a few days, a claim from the farmer was received by SWT Public Affairs in headquarters who had enough sense to look at the control log and found the item. The farmer was advised that the fire had been reported by a steam hauled train, so that was unlikely to have caused the fire. If he wanted to take the issue further, the Transport Police Fraud section would be taking an interest. As I understand no more was heard about the fire.
    Cheers, Neil
     

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