The Route to Preservation following the end of Steam

The SR list is as shown below.

There are a few notable trends. To a significant degree, the pre-grouping locos were either sold direct into preservation, or entered industrial service and then preservation (E1 110; B4 96; Ps 178 and 753). Four were amongst the 8 locos initially preserved by Butlins (A1x 40, 62, 78, B4 102). The only two pre-grouping locos to enter preservation via Barry were the two largest: S15s 499 and 506.

From amongst the Maunsell locos, most entered preservation via Barry. The exceptions are those in the National Collection (777, 850, 925) and, oddly, all three of the Schools class preserved, (925, 926, 928).

The 4 USA tanks all avoided Barry, though two of them were in fact sold to Woodhams, but then resold for preservation without ever going to Wales.

Of Bulleid's locos, nearly all went via Barry. The exceptions are C1 and 34051 (direct to the National Collection); 21c123 and 35028 (sold by BR direct for preservation). Everything else went via Barry.



Canterbury and Whitstable

• "Invicta" - Initially preserved by the SER; donated to the City of Canterbury by the SE&CR

LBSCR

• A1x - 72 - Fenchurch - Sold by BR into preservation
• A1x - 70 - Poplar (KESR Bodiam) - Sold by BR into preservation
• A1x - 54 - Waddon - Donated by BR into preservation
• A1x - 55 - Stepney - Sold by BR into preservation
• A1x - 62 - Martello - Sold by BR to Butlins
• A1x - 46 - Newington (IoW Freshwater) - Sold by BR to a private owner, thence sold to a pub and ultimately to the IoWSR
• A1x - 50 - Whitechapel - Sold by BR to the London Borough of Sutton & Merton
• A1x - 40 - Brighton (IoW Newport) - Sold by BR to Butlins and ultimately to the IoW Locomotive Society
• A1x - 78 - Knowle - Sold by BR to Butlins
• A1x - 82 - Boxhill - Transferred by BR into the National Collection
• E1 - 110 - Burgundy - Sold by SR into industrial service and subsequently purchased for preservation
• B1 - 214 - Gladstone - Sold by the SR to the Stephenson Locomotive Society, who subsequently donated the locomotive to the British Transport Commission for inclusion in the National Collection.
• E4 - 473 - Birch Grove - Sold by BR into preservation
  
• H2 - 424 - Beachy Head - New build

LSWR

• 0298 - 298 (30587) - Transferred by BR into the National Collection
• 0298 - 314 (30585) - Sold by BR into preservation
• 0415 - 488 - Sold by BR into preservation
• T3 - 563 - Transferred by BR into the National Collection; subsequently deaccessioned and donated to the Swanage Railway Trust
• T9 - 120 - Transferred by BR into the National Collection
• B4 - 96 - Normandy - Sold by BR into industrial service and subsequently purchased for preservation
• B4 - 102 - Granville - Sold by BR to Butlins
• M7 - 245 - Transferred by BR into the National Collection
• M7 - 53 - Donated (?) by BR for preservation in the USA; subsequently purchased and repatriated
• O2 - 209 (W24 Calbourne) - Sold by BR into preservation
• S15 - 499 - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
• S15 - 506 - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry

SECR

• C - 592 - Sold by BR into preservation
• O1 - 65 - Sold by BR into preservation
• H - 263 - Sold by BR into preservation
• D - 737 - Transferred by BR into the National Collection
• P - 27 - Sold by BR into preservation
• P - 178 - Sold by BR into industrial service and subsequently purchased for preservation
• P - 323 - Sold by BR into preservation
• P - 753- Sold by BR into industrial service and subsequently purchased for preservation

SR incl. BR(S)

• Q - 541 - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
• N - 874 - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
• N15 - 777 Sir Lamiel - Transferred by BR into the National Collection
• LN - 850 - Lord Nelson - Transferred by BR into the National Collection
• S15 - 825 - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
• S15 - 828 - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
• S15 - 830 - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
• S15 - 841 - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
• S15 - 847 - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
• U - 1618 - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
• U - 1625 - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
• U - 1638 - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
• U - 1806 - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
• V - 925 Cheltenham - Transferred by BR into the National Collection
• V - 926 - Repton - Sold by BR directly into preservation
• V - 928 - Stowe - Sold by BR directly into preservation
• Q1 - C1 - Transferred by BR into the National Collection
• USA - 64 - Sold by BR directly into preservation
• USA - 65 - Sold by BR to Woodhams but then re-sold for preservation without ever going via Barry
• USA - 70 - Sold by BR to Woodhams but then re-sold for preservation without ever going via Barry
• USA - 72 - Sold by BR directly into preservation
• MN (rebuilt) - 35005 Canadian Pacific - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
• MN (rebuilt) - 35006 P&O Line - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
  
• MN (rebuilt) - 35009 Shaw Savill - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
  
• MN (rebuilt) - 35010 Blue Star - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
  
• MN (rebuilt) - 35011 General Steam Navigation - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
  
• MN (rebuilt) - 35018 British India Line - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
  
• MN (rebuilt) - 35022 Holland Amerika Line - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
  
• MN (rebuilt) - 35025 Brocklebank Line - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
  
• MN (rebuilt) - 35027 Port Line - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
  
• MN (rebuilt) - 35028 Clan Line - Sold by BR directly into preservation
  
• MN (rebuilt) - 35029 Ellerman Lines - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry. Subsequently purchased for the National Collection and sectioned.
• WC/BB - 21C107 Wadebridge - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
• WC/BB (Rebuilt) - 34010 Sidmouth - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
  
• WC/BB (Rebuilt) - 34016 Bodmin - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
  
• WC/BB - 21C123 Blackmore Vale - Sold by BR directly into preservation
  
• WC/BB (Rebuilt) - 34027 Taw Valley - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
  
• WC/BB (Rebuilt) - 34028 Eddystone - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
  
• WC/BB (Rebuilt) - 34039 Bocastle - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
  
• WC/BB (Rebuilt) - 34046 Braunton - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
  
• WC/BB - 21C151 Sir Winston Churchill - Transferred by BR into the National Collection
• WC/BB (Rebuilt) - 34053 Sir Keith Park - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
  
• WC/BB (Rebuilt) - 34058 Sir Frederick Pile - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
  
• WC/BB (Rebuilt) - 34059 Sir Archibald Sinclair - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
  
• WC/BB - 21C167 Tangmere - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
  
• WC/BB - 21C170 Manston - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
  
• WC/BB - 34072 257 Squadron - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
  
• WC/BB - 34073 249 Squadron - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
  
• WC/BB - 34081 92 Squadron - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
  
• WC/BB - 34092 Wells - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
  
• WC/BB (Rebuilt) - 34101 Hartland - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry
  
• WC/BB (Rebuilt) - 34105 Swanage - Sold by BR to Woodhams, Barry

Tom

 

8518 was allocated to Heaton (Newcastle) from August 1944 until May 1947, when it moved to Wakefield

 

When did 46115 go to Haworth?

 

Not quite correct. 8500 to 8559 were built at Darlington and Doncaster Works for the LMS and loaned to the LNER.
The Class O6s were built for the LNER at Brighton, Darlington and Doncaster Works.
The O6s eventually received LNER numbers 3500 to 3567. Just before Nationalisation they were loaned to the LMS and were given the Nos 8705 to 8772. BR Nos 48705 to 48772)

 

1965 from memory.

 

She was still at Kingmoor in June 1966 when I visited.

 

Did it ever carry “NE” on the tender?


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I didn't realise 60019 had run on BR when in private hands before it's more recent resurrection- I'd always thought it had been withdrawn and sidelined non operational due to some damaged component(s)?

Chris

 

Either that or the full LNER. I have photos of 3505, 3506 and 3534 with all four letters. Another of 3535 just has NE so it possibly carried both at different times.

 

Here it is as No 19 passing Huttons Ambo with a York - Scarborough special on 16/9/72


I am not sure that it operated any other trains back in those early return to steam days

Peter

 

The 8Fs built for the LNER, Class O6 3500 to 3567, did have LNER on their tenders until they went to the LMS and became 8705 to 8772. However, 8Fs 8500 to 8559 were built at Doncaster and Darlington for the LMS, but loaned to the LNER. Photos show that these locos had LMS on their tenders. A bit of a confusing situation.

 

This was it in Aug. 1968.
Ray.

 

Both 5025, 46464 and 828 were bought straight from BR, as were 419, Maude and Morayshire.

 

Did Midland Railway 1F 0-6-0 tank 41708 go to the KWVR? I have seen a photo of it at Holbeck shed up on sleepers, due to hot boxes being rectified.

 

Ooops - I forgot the 1F. Sorry I’m not old quite enough, but I know a man who might be …….

 

Yes it did, it figyres in John Sagar's book about the locos of the KWVR from years ago

 

Yes, confirmed to me too.

 

Tom has partly answered a question I was going to ask about pre grouping locos which got to Barry, the only ones I could think of were 43924 and a couple of GWR 2-8-0s of both tank and tender, didn't know about S15s

 

The RCTS booklet agrees with this account. The 8Fs built in 1943-5 by LNER for the LMS were on loan to the LNER until 1946/7, but retained their LMS numbering and ownership marking during that time. Whereas those built for the LNER had "NE" or "LNER" on the tender and were classed as O6 - initially allocated numbers from 7651 but changing first to 3100-67 and then 3500-67. To confuse matters further, the O6s were also transferred to LMS in late 1947 and became LMS 8705-8772.

Attached is a copy of and RCTS page showing the tender marking options. Apologies for poor picture quality.