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The Route to Preservation following the end of Steam

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  1. Fred Kerr

    Fred Kerr Resident of Nat Pres Friend

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    60019 was also used in September 1966 the day after it worked the Edinburgh - York leg of a weekend A4 Farewell from Aberdeen (The Grampian) when it was used on a York - Healey Mills trip freight; on return to York Geoff Drury took possession on the footplate before it entered the shed for the last time.
     
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  2. Frankie Hutchings

    Frankie Hutchings New Member

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    I also have in my collection tickets from 60019s last runs in BR ownership
     
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    Strictly speaking one locomotive from the Corris Railway should be added to the pre-1900 GWR list.
     
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  4. bluetrain

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    Thank-you for posting this interesting table. The LSWR appears to have had the largest range of surviving pre-1900 types in 1958, though probably not the largest number of engines. I think the most numerous of those LSWR types would have been the M7, although many
    of those were post-1900 build. Most of the M7s lasted into the 1960s.

    Unlike the LSWR, the LMS and LNER constituents mostly had loco fleets whose overall numbers were dominated by goods engines. If you look at an Ian Allan abc from the 1950s, it is noticeable that the LMR and ER/NER sections had page after page listing 0-6-0s, including many from the late 19th Century. So lots of pre-1900 "2F" types from the Midland, L&Y and Caledonian, plus J10 (ex-GC), J15 (ex-GE), J21 & J25 (ex-NE) and J36 (ex-NB). The LNWR and pre-1900 GN 0-6-0s were extinct by the mid 1950s, and are notable omissions from the preservation record, although tank engine versions ("Coal tank" and J52) survive. The G&SWR and H&BR had also once had large fleets of 0-6-0s, but they were gone by 1939 and never made it into an Ian Allan abc!

    When preservation schemes were becoming established in the 1960s, their initial loco (and carriage) choices were obviously constrained by the vagaries of what had or had not survived in main line service up until that time - prior to the later constraint of what did or did not get sent to Barry.
     
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    I mentioned the G&SWR above, so perhaps we should note that the sole surviving G&SWR loco achieved preservation after a long spell in industrial use. The LMS sold it to a colliery in North Wales in 1934. It then spent nearly 30 years in coalfield use before being identified for preservation. Details here:

    https://preservedbritishsteamlocomotives.com/9-0-6-0t-glasgow-south-western-railway-class-5/

    I've attached some photos taken from Essery & Jenkinson "Illustrated History of LMS Locomotives":

    (1) The preserved G&SWR engine in LMS service as No 16379.

    (2) The sole G&SWR engine to reach BR ownership - 0-6-2T LMS No 16905, which was withdrawn in Apr 1948.

    (3) The most numerous of G&SWR types, the Smellie Class 22 0-6-0 of which 64 were built in 1881-90. Hugh Smellie had followed his predecessor James Stirling's use of the domeless boiler, but his successor James Manson used domed boilers, which gradually came to be fitted to Stirling and Smellie engines. The photo shows domeless and domed versions of the class. This change was analogous to what happened after Ivatt and Wainwright succeeded Patrick and James Stirling on the GNR and SER respectively. The Bluebell's preserved Class O1 0-6-0 No 65 was originally a Stirling domeless engine and has a link to the several hundred similar locos built for the G&SWR, GNR, SER and H&BR.
     

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  6. johnofwessex

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    I wonder where the idea for a Simplex came from?

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    I think it’s actually where the design for ‘Butch’ comes from, but as you say, Simplex is quite similar looking!

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