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Strathspey Railway

Discussion in 'Heritage Railways & Centres in the UK' started by steam_mad, Oct 30, 2015.

  1. GWR4707

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    Question of making very limited budgets stretch as far as possible taking note of risks associated with asset failure. I used to work for an organisation that had literally thousands of bridges, all inspected under a strict regime but when it came to deciding where the repair/maintenance money was spent that decision was reached using other matrix like risk of injury if asset failed, disruption caused if asset failed (not an exhaustive list - far from it).
     
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    …tends to accelerate bankruptcy.

    But more generally, I’m in the camp that doubts much can or will be done. It’s a major structure in a challenging location, which serves a limited purpose.

    Scour is difficult to observe, and can lead to sudden collapse (see Glanrhyd for an example). The combination of alluvial rock, fast currents, and tidal waters will be difficult to address; dealing with such long girder lengths would stretch any local authority.

    I suspect a number of authorities which have adopted structures will be looking very closely at the liabilities associated with them, and considering just how little residual life remains in them. I doubt this will be the last trackbed cycle trail or footpath to be closed.
     
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    Oh absolutely, that's the case everywhere, if it wasn't, civil engineering asset management would be a lot simpler and I probably wouldn't have a job! But from a purely selfish point of view, if the recommended interventions have been put on backlog due to money, I'm covered as an engineer, it's a finance problem!

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    Where, if I may ask? The video does not appear to include a sound-track.

    It does clearly show the missing pier (of the pair in the middle), but one can sort of see that in the images in the BBC story. As I mentioned, though, it's not clear if that was the initiating event, or a consequence, during the failure.

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    Noel, I am not a civil engineer or engineer of any sort but it seems to me that, taken with the previous video showing the deep water and the likely river currents, that the sequence was started with a scouring of one of the piers which has subsequently failed. That has then led to the bridge sections collapsing into the river. I interpret the marking on the top of the surviving pier (1m 11s et seq) as evidence that the span nearer the bow girder slipped as the surviving pier moved and the twisted span simply toppled and fell over. I am more than happy for a qualified bridge engineer to correct my speculations!
     
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