Castle Over Shap - Sat 20 Jun

Steamage · 2009-06-29

作者 Bob Meanley:

...Alastair did fire 6233 for Bill Andrew on the first down Talisman back in 2005 when it put up a bit of an epic performance.

Bob
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That must have been a hard day's work! I hope he was excused prep and disposal duties that day!

*8A* · 2009-06-29

Fantastic effort Mark and as you say shows what a great job both crews did - Alastair seems to have the edge in the steam producing department as whist the Scot is feathering nicely, the Castle has steam to spare!
I wasn't lucky enough to be with 6115 but was with 5043 and just couldn't believe how well that engine steams no matter how hard it seems to be working, looking out of the window just before the summit and listening to the Castle roar and to see the steam from the lifting safety valves, I could hardly believe it! It was the same on the south run with again steam to spare at the summit. Masterful driving and firing.
I can well believe Bob's comment about the draught on 5043 - I'm sure it was pulling the coal off the shovel!

Sidmouth · 2009-06-29

作者 Steamage:

On Saturday 20th June, I was able to shoot the Castle from almost the same spot as I used for Scots Guardsman on 9th April hauling The Great Britain. So I thought I’d put them side-by-side, to see how they compare. I’ve just posted the result on You Tube (after a week of trying!)

The two runs are incredibly similar! The shots are synchronised on the white house near Greenholme (0:03). By Shap Wells under-bridge (2:45), 46115 is just one loco-length ahead (roughly one second). The shots are taken from slightly different places (higher and further up the hill in June), so the Castle disappears from view just a little earlier, and the relative positions of trees between the camera and the line are different. It was also a surprise to me to see that I chose to zoom back by about the same amount and at the same place both times. In April, the wind was a strong south-westerly, blowing the sound towards us better (right-hand channel), but buffeting the camera more. The split screen format emphasises the camera movement, I’m afraid.

I’m not going to say that one run is better than the other. Both crews did near-perfect jobs. They got their trains over the summit within the schedule without over-exerting the locos or themselves, and in so doing provided great entertainment for passengers and on-lookers.

PS: Hopefully the HD version will be available later this evening. I uploaded it as a 720/25P WMV file, but only the SD version is on-line ATM.
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Mark

that is an amazing piece of video . thoroughly enjoyed

Shoddy127 · 2009-06-30

作者 Sidmouth:

作者 Steamage:

On Saturday 20th June, I was able to shoot the Castle from almost the same spot as I used for Scots Guardsman on 9th April hauling The Great Britain. So I thought I’d put them side-by-side, to see how they compare. I’ve just posted the result on You Tube (after a week of trying!)

The two runs are incredibly similar! The shots are synchronised on the white house near Greenholme (0:03). By Shap Wells under-bridge (2:45), 46115 is just one loco-length ahead (roughly one second). The shots are taken from slightly different places (higher and further up the hill in June), so the Castle disappears from view just a little earlier, and the relative positions of trees between the camera and the line are different. It was also a surprise to me to see that I chose to zoom back by about the same amount and at the same place both times. In April, the wind was a strong south-westerly, blowing the sound towards us better (right-hand channel), but buffeting the camera more. The split screen format emphasises the camera movement, I’m afraid.

I’m not going to say that one run is better than the other. Both crews did near-perfect jobs. They got their trains over the summit within the schedule without over-exerting the locos or themselves, and in so doing provided great entertainment for passengers and on-lookers.

PS: Hopefully the HD version will be available later this evening. I uploaded it as a 720/25P WMV file, but only the SD version is on-line ATM.
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Mark

that is an amazing piece of video . thoroughly enjoyed
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Agreed, a top effort Mark! =D>

Stu in Torbay · 2009-06-30

=D> =D> =D> Great stuff. Perhaps you have started a trend! Next stop, Whiteball, Dainton, S&C, Lickey......

henrywinskill · 2009-06-30

Excellent Mark think youve added a new dimension to recording events.
Henry & Dee

tfftfftff86 · 2009-06-30

I'll think we'll have to invent an extra sixth star for videos like Mark's, for being informative as well as aesthetic. It'll be manna for the regional devotees - unless their favourite comes second of course.

Long may both these engines keep finding crews that deserve them. Everyone's a winner here, eh?

Stu in Torbay · 2009-07-01

Absolutely. Seeing magnificently restored and maintained traction worked by top-draw crew on our famous gradients is truly awesome - regardless of breed, colour, size =D> =D> =D>

southyorkshireman · 2009-07-01

Great video, both locos giving an impreesive performance.

Out of interest, what was the tonnage of each train. I know we have commented that the Castle had one carriage less, both trains include Met cam Pullmans which I understand are heavier than most, but the castle has a good number of mk2s in it's rake.

GWR4707 · 2009-07-02

作者 southyorkshireman:

Great video, both locos giving an impreesive performance.

Out of interest, what was the tonnage of each train. I know we have commented that the Castle had one carriage less, both trains include Met cam Pullmans which I understand are heavier than most, but the castle has a good number of mk2s in it's rake.
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In light of the impromptu coaling that went on at Crewe when we got back its also worth considering that the first coach on the southbund run had quite a few tons of coal on board!

Just to add my congratulations to all at Tyseley for a fantastic run, a real credit to you all. I hope that a run over the S&C is now on the agenda!!

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