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Rolling Stock For Sale

Discussion in 'Heritage Rolling Stock' started by steamwife, Dec 18, 2007.

  1. StoneRoad

    StoneRoad Well-Known Member

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    So, I'll go ahead & assume that these two carriages will now end up scrapped ?

    Which will be a real shame ... once gone, gone forever, but could be replicated.

    [much as I would want to restore them, I have neither the funds nor workshop space at present to do so]
     
  2. Pete Thornhill

    Pete Thornhill Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Administrator Moderator Friend

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    Hopefully something happens and they aren’t.

    It’s good to see that despite a desire you have a grip on reality unlike some who think a Facebook page and a Go fund me are the answer to all those issues!!!
     
  3. J Rob't Harrison

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    Whilst I understand that the GCRN want/ need a neat and tidy site, the optics of their scrapping a pair of irreplaceable relics belonging to the original GCR are... not good. It would almost certainly completely destroy any goodwill toward the organisation from those of us who are pre-grouping (and specifically pre-grouping GCR) enthusiasts.

    Now, does that demographic significantly contribute to the Railway? - who knows? Would the scrap value from a pair of chassis and some metal fittings outweigh the financial support offered by the people who contribute to the Railway solely because they happen to be home to that stock? And from that point, has any Railway ever undertaken a survey of its supporters/ members as to why they support them? It seems to be a common thing with historical line societies (when I joined the GCRS there was a questionnaire as to where my particular interests lie), but I've never seen similar from the preserved lines I support.
     
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    The Green Howards Nat Pres stalwart

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    (Some of you may be familiar with the Led Zeppelin version of this, but this is the c. 1927 original)
     
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    For those of you thinking that we judged Mr R too harshly, and we perhaps ought to have given him a chance... he even misrepresented on his Facebook page the reason for being "banned" from Nat Pres. I am afraid his grip on reality is positively Trumpian.
     
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    Pete Thornhill Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Administrator Moderator Friend

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    What did he say the reason was?

    The reason was simple - he aleady had an account, I was quite reasonable and gave him an opportunity to resolve it by getting in touch but decided to ignore it so I got rid of the account.
     
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    This is the bigger story than Reeder tilting at windmills. but a far harder ship to right than a superficial attempt at moving two irreplaceable carriages a place where they'll see as little work carried out.
     
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    Facebook page now removed
     
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    Lost in the noise of another matter, was there any mention on here of the two ex-GNR carriage bodies in Aylsham? There's a piece on them in the current GNRS magazine.
     
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    damianrhysmoore Part of the furniture

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    On the subject of Aylsham...Apparently taking someone for an Aylsham treat is where you ask them out and expect them to pay
     
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    To be clear, the 567 Group are looking to move the carriage to their storage site so as to save it for future restoration by either another group, or for another group to be formed to restore it.

    I've happily made a donation to this and before anyone asks if I didn't learn a lesson from a few weeks ago, I'd say things are slightly different;
    1) I've been a member of the 567 group for the last 10 years and I trust them - in that time they haven't lied to me
    2) 567 is making obvious progress (bogie wheels and driving wheels cast, frames bolted up, cylinder block being machined, tender chassis under restoration) so the group has a certain credibility in doing what they say they're going to do (even if it is a few years between saying it and doing it)
    3) They've been honest and upfront in managing expectations - the appeal is just to move the carriage and they're not looking to immediately restore it themselves
    4) The figure they're asking for is a more modest sum and it's actually in the nature of match-funding they've put up themselves.
     
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    I think that looks a much more realistic prospect !
     
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    I'm in agreement with you. I'd call this A Good Start.
     
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