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North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion

Discussion in 'Heritage Railways & Centres in the UK' started by The Black Hat, Feb 13, 2011.

  1. Dumb buffer

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    I thought the S160 was running on rape seed oil not diesel?
     
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    They have been using both.
     
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    Thanks Kje7812 I thought I had missed something. Is this to compare running cost between the two fuels or just the availablity of the rape seed oil?
     
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    The original plan, as I understand it, was for the Railway's Footplate Inspectors to be trained up on the oil firing and then to cascade it down to the remaining footplate volunteers. At the moment that training is very much in the first phase and I'm not sure that any of the Inspectors currently have the necessary experience. As the Inspectorate is essentially made up of volunteers the training has to coincide with their availability. I think 'Piglet' is the only person with significant oil firing experience of the type fitted although others in the engineering department have been involved with the installation and trials and obviously have some knowledge.
     
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    Reports from whom? I can't dispute it because I don't know actual facts but I'm dubious. It's not in daily use for reasons I've explained in other posts.
     
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    I am not so sure. This is based on a few minutes on the internet only so could be wrong but:

    Coal produces about 9000kWh per tonne. Diesel about 12700 and Rape oil about 10800.

    On the assumption that the loco would burn 3 te of coal @£400 per tonne is £1200 per day.

    Diesel roughly £700/te. Rape oil is roughly £1000/te. But you need less of both.

    The equivalent to the cost of coal (3te / day) for diesel is £1500 and rape oil £2500.

    If I am approximately right, then diesel would probably be an affordable alternative to not otherwise running steam due to fire risk. Rape oil much less so, unless they have a a source that is much cheaper.
     
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    Good loadings today. I saw plenty of people coming off the 1555 arrival at Pickering. The station was busy earlier. It's the first Thursday running of the season and I did wonder if the NYMR had missed out on quite a bit of custom by not running 7 days from June 1st.

    Just over a carriage and a half of passengers on two Whitby trains every Thursday and Friday for the six weeks since June would, perhaps, have brought in £116,400.
    I'm sure more than that number would've travelled had the line been open.
    Is the management keen to make money?

    And how about a sign telling everyone 'Trains running daily'? Quite a few locals seemed unaware it was open today.
     
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