If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

Lynton and Barnstaple - Operations and Development

Discussion in 'Narrow Gauge Railways' started by 50044 Exeter, Dec 25, 2009.

  1. Meatman

    Meatman Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2018
    Messages:
    776
    Likes Received:
    1,911
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Burrington,devon
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    My personal view for many years has been that if each separate group has the same person at the top it is not necessarily the best situation and definitely does not guarantee continuity, and can very much promote the wishes of one person,luckily now we are slowly seeing changes and forgive the pun, a totally different train of thought that ultimately needs to spread throughout the L&B family,id rather see a board room in discussion with different views needing to be hammered out rather than a board room full of nodding donkeys
     
  2. 35B

    35B Nat Pres stalwart

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2011
    Messages:
    32,613
    Likes Received:
    35,648
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Grantham
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    I completely agree. And as the saying goes, Rome wasn't built in a day
     
    lynbarn, Mark Thompson and Meatman like this.
  3. ross

    ross Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2017
    Messages:
    1,082
    Likes Received:
    2,714
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Titfield
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    If the only possible opportunity to travel behind a recreated Manning-Wardle were to travel to Devon, then that is what people would have to do. Then they would get to visit the recreated L&B, and do that 'adding to the local economy' thing that all railways claim. If, however, one got the notion that sooner or later an itinerant Manning Wardle would turn up at the local narrow gauge line, then one might not bother with Devon at all, and just travel behind Exe2 at some other location.
    The M-W might earn steaming fees, which it seems are not enough to cover the wear and tear incurred, but the host railway would get the earnings and the benefit of offering this 'unique' experience.
    Surely better if the recreated L&B locomotives stayed on the railway whose character the originals helped establish, and the L&B kept its usp of being the L&B.
    However, that being the case, it might be better to proceed slowly on the loco-building and prioritise building more L&B, rather than just WB, for the public to ride on.
     
    Last edited: Jul 29, 2026 at 9:50 PM
  4. Bikermike

    Bikermike Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2020
    Messages:
    2,219
    Likes Received:
    2,546
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Thameslink territory
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    How many devoted manning wardle fans do you think there are?

    And how many of them will come more than once if ticking off MW haulage is their aim?
     
  5. Pete Thornhill

    Pete Thornhill Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Administrator Moderator Friend

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2008
    Messages:
    8,110
    Likes Received:
    6,623
    I’m not entirely sure what point you are making as there is already one running on a completely different, (more substantial) railway, which is as scenic as the L&B so apart from overhaul periods the MW’s will never be unique to North Devon.

    Equally, when Lyn visited the FR did that have an adverse effect on visitors to the L&.B as everyone had seen it in Wales? I think not.

    What is unique is the L&B using locos and rolling stock on the line that were designed for L&B use originally. The FR or indeed any other railway cannot offer or compete with that.
     
    Jark91, Snail368, MellishR and 3 others like this.
  6. RailWest

    RailWest Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2011
    Messages:
    4,268
    Likes Received:
    8,323
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    West Country
    What is more, with due apologies to the good folk at Bideford, the L&BR is the only operational heritage railway in North Devon - and NG to boot :)

    What we need however is the incentive to get visitors to come to North Devon without getting 'distracted' at the WSR on the way and then failing to go any further west. Still a struggle IMHO when you compare the two 'offerings' and their ease (or otherwise) of transport links.
     
    Last edited: Jul 30, 2026 at 11:13 AM
  7. David Mylchreest

    David Mylchreest New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2025
    Messages:
    95
    Likes Received:
    58
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    London
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    I really like the L&B, I think that Woody Bay is one of the great achievements of the heritage railway movement. But having said that, the different, and seemingly many, components that make up the enthusiast bodies of the L&B are one of the regrets of the movement. These bodies are quite disgracefully argumentative, destructively so, quite incapable of working constructively together as this latest bout illustrates all too readily.
     
    silversteellady likes this.
  8. brmp201

    brmp201 Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2010
    Messages:
    667
    Likes Received:
    1,068
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    IT Director
    Location:
    Surrey, UK
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
  9. MellishR

    MellishR Resident of Nat Pres Friend

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2009
    Messages:
    9,450
    Likes Received:
    6,270
    I thought "the latest bout" was move to much more co-operation.
     
    saddle-tank and Old Kent Biker like this.
  10. Old Kent Biker

    Old Kent Biker Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2007
    Messages:
    1,099
    Likes Received:
    1,879
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    IT Consultant (retired)
    Location:
    Kent UK
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    What 'bout' are you talking about exactly, and where? I feel things are going rather well at the moment...
     
    Jark91, saddle-tank, Snail368 and 3 others like this.
  11. RailWest

    RailWest Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2011
    Messages:
    4,268
    Likes Received:
    8,323
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    West Country
    PE Planning Application.

    In Item 11 of the Community Involvement document it is stated that "The pedestrian gate will normally be locked with no access permitted except when trains are operating. The guard on the first train of the day will unlock the gate and the guard on the last train of the day will lock the halt."

    OK, fine, but.... elsewhere it was stated that the last of the five trains of the day would run "dependant upon demand" or words to that effect - I've lost the reference at the moment. So how will the guard of the penultimate train know if the last train will or will not be running and so he/she should or should not lock the gate?
     
  12. Old Kent Biker

    Old Kent Biker Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2007
    Messages:
    1,099
    Likes Received:
    1,879
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    IT Consultant (retired)
    Location:
    Kent UK
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I'm sure there are many possible solutions,but I take that to mean that the railway will schedule the 'last train' on days where demand is likely to be heavier, and not on quieter days - not on an 'as required' basis at the time the last train was due to depart.
     

Share This Page