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North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion

Discussion in 'Heritage Railways & Centres in the UK' started by The Black Hat, Feb 13, 2011.

  1. Sawdust

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    Firstly, there has been rain on successive days in North Yorkshire this week. I'm not saying that should or should not justify the reintroduction of steam. Just pointing out different places have, you know, different weather.
    On the subject of past motive power crisis, does anyone remember when things were so bad they even had to hire a 31 from Thornaby. Not much changes except the 31 has to come from further away now.
    Going even further back with infrastructure deficiencies, there was the short platform at Grosmont, which if you were at the front of the train when it came in, you would have to queue 5 to 10 minutes to alight from train. Also the days when the loop at Levisham was so short, trains from Goathland would run into what was then the yard headshunt, before having to set back a couple of carriage lengths after the North bound train had left.
    I suspect today's management would have tried to restrict demand to what the infrastructure could cope with then instead of spending to increase capacity and flexibility.

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    Seems to work like that on the National Network. You basically have described DfT policy there.
     
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    I remember those well. No worries about coaches being off platform back then. That at Grosmont was before platform 3 was extended and the wall on the back of the platform demolished to allow platform 4 to be built, along with extending the platforms and loop to allow for trains longer than six coaches. Before that, long trains used to creep into platform 3 and, as soon as the last coach was clear of the crossing gates, the crossing keeper would pull the vacuum brake bag off the rear coach bringing the train to a stop. Go 5 feet too far and the train loco couldn’t get round. Stop short and the gates couldn’t be closed.
    Setting back at Levisham with long up trains was common practice. The problem was there was no track circuiting and the signalman could pull off to allow you to set back then set the road and give you the starter whilst the down train was still foul of the crossover. Footplate crews had to be wary of this and not look out for the guards right away unless the down train was clear and the manoeuvre could be safely accomplished.
     
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