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Discussion in 'International Heritage Railways/Tramways' started by Saint, Jul 4, 2017.

  1. Saint

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    Thread drift forgiven, this is an "SVF oriented" page because I volunteer in SVF. My apologies for the delay in the reply and thank you for the picture and , Tirano is a very interesting place when talking about railways, you have a fully operational standard gauge railway, preservation activities and an UNESCO-awarded narrow gauge railway. Several years ago I was involved in an EU founded international project and guess what, every time the work shift was abroad, we (my wife always followed me) always returned to Italy through the Bernina pass line :).

    About your question. Luckily I have access to authoritative sources and they confirm that 880.051 is running post-overhaul testing and will be return in service soon. The other engines are inactive.

    About SVF, mandatory update. August means holidays. For some the most fun is... preserve trains and signalling!

    Let's start with trains. While the usual "gardening", with Giovanni taking a lot of fun on his GT supercar! ;)

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    The truth is that this device greatly improved grass mowing! Too bad that the house in the background is out of our reach. To be honest, we still have to complete the restoration of the main station building. Waiting for the required re$ources...

    And while our "Nuvolari" fixes the grass length, other members works on one of the Fb (British loading gauge) van doors, that was damaged by weather and maybe a defect in painting.

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    (new wood)

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    (and new paint job)

    And now the progress in Cabina A signal box, where our hackers[1]. First of all we needed better labels for the relais in the signal box. George challenged the problem, designed and 3D printed the new ones, and he's already thinking about how to improve the solution in the picture:

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    Another goal of our restoration team is to achieve full simulation of the station in the state before AV/AC line (AV/AC is Alta Velocità/Alta Capacutà - Hugh Speed / High Capacity) was built and the computer-controlled signalling was activated. The lost signal boxes B and C will be completely computer-simulated while the preserved stationmaster switchboard will be restored to make it fully operational. The switches on that switchboard where the mean the stationmaster issued order to the signal boxes. To do so, old switches damaged beyond repair must be replaced preserving the knobs whenever possible. Ladies and gentlemen, let me introduce a short video of the 3D printed replacement for switch with a preserved knob ! Again great job George!

    https://youtube.com/shorts/OQsdTJp9ULo?feature=share

    And should a knob become unrecoverable, George has already a 3D-print replacement available!

    https://youtube.com/shorts/U8djQiHK5SU?feature=share

    And last, another part of the signal box diagram returns to life. The short video shows a signal changing aspect once the corresponding lever is operated.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/1J0S3hHE-r0?feature=share

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    [1] Again, I give to the word "hacker" a positive meaning i fear it has lost. An hacker is

    • A person who enjoys learning: A hacker likes to learn how systems work.
    • A master of programming: A hacker writes code fast and well.
    • An expert fixer: A hacker loves to solve hard puzzles in smart ways.

    People who break into systems are "crackers," not hackers. [
     
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    Thanks for the update and good to see the progress.
     
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    A Signal Box has a ACE lever frame (ACE stands for Apparato Centrale Elettrico - Electric Centralized Apparatus, the electro-mechanic interlocking frame) and two small ACEI, Apparato Centrale Elettrico a Itinerari where "a Itinerari" means that a single operation checks an creates an itinerary setting and locking all the switches involved - and locks out all conflicting paths. When the Signal Box was decommissioned the two ACEI were left as empty cabinet with all the useful stuff remoted and we are re-creating the circuits required to reactivate them. One, the smaller one, was already re-activated, today the lights of the screen on the larger one blinked again after years. When the Singal Box was in service, the smaller apparatus controlled the Montà junction just west of Padua station, the larger one was meant to simply monitor the line between Padova and Grisignano stations.



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    These are the new circuits used to reactivate the ACEI device

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    And if you wandered what's below the metal tiles of the raised floor, here it is:

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    A poor video of the last part of the Valsugana line up to the end of Primolano station:



    and a new little improvement in the ACEI devices: (Thank you George)

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    First of all, an appeal:

    Fondo Ambiente Italiano stages this poll for the most beloved places. We would like to have the Primolano Railway Museum and his shed in the top 100, to gain more visibility. Please vote. It is free of charge, it just require answering to a ballot-confirmation e-mail. Here is the link to the poll:

    https://fondoambiente.it/luoghi/rimessa-locomotive-a-vapore-di-primolano?ldc


    And now to the September Open Day. Successful. Successful as for the attendance (500 visitors at mid day), and this brought generous donation (and this never hurts!)

    But let's start from the maintenance works. This brought a "real freight train" on our rails, not one staged just for the pictures, one generating not revenue but utility. The wagon is a 1906 snowplough, made in Belgium (and not, we are not in D. Adams universe :) ). Here is with the plough blades removed.

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    On Saturday we hosted the photographic session of a group of enthusiasts and the night brought something unexpected...

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    (usual kind of picture)
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    But the other side show a peculiar shadow puppet show!

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    An engine over Primolano!

    And pictures from the Open Day! The turntable is an everlasting hit!

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    A glimpse on our attendance

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    And now, shown to the general public for the first time, the water crane resupplying the locomotive water tanks!

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    Another firs! Genearl public within the shed,

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    Before starting with the news about our activities, here is a picture from the days when Primolano started to be a cemetery of trains-to-be-cut.

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    The derelict train is a former TEE DMU, the FS ALn 442-448, that become the 460 when they lost the border police office and kitchen. The Km 79 gatekeeper house was not a pile of ruins and the water tower was still standing. We miss the water tower even if the water supply is enough to fill the water tanks and mostly to stage the operation on the behalf of the visitors.

    Sunday we had the last open day for this year. And the day before we had the final ceremony for the 110th birthday of our engine and the 20th of the association. There were local authorities (major and head of the council) attending to the ceremony together the grandson of Dr. Marchiorello, our late benefactor, the man who belived in 12 not-so-crazy dreamers.

    Another thing. we are one of the "Luoghi del Cuore" (place of your heart) of Fondo Ambiente Italiano, a no profit foundation promoting the protection and enhancement of the territory (here is the link to vote us https://fondoambiente.it/luoghi/rimessa-locomotive-a-vapore-di-primolano?ldc&fbclid=IwY2xjawTUGPxleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFxRzAyMUVwTkh3dHZrYTc4c3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHq-hnb0G4wuH3zlVDKQMW3crXB8tA6_qK3rFUcAXZyPdzIs1hRubPcoWar3g_aem__81w0W1OtkWvvf2jWoDZEw ), the Bassano chapter officially stated that we are a site to vote in an article on the Gazzettino local newspaper. Result: 1050 visitors, we did about 8 runs with our train, each one packed up to the last available seat. All the visitors had fun and were happy of the visit. All the volunteers were exhausted, but still willing to joke about it.

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    And let's starts with some video. First of all that we made for our 20 years. "Sentry", the chap in the wheelbarrow has operated points all day long

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    and all the points in the yard are like that, this is point #208 with its new marking. This is not a game. When a train moves on our rail there are precise regulations controlling the movement, like in any railway.

    Both he and Nicolò the station master wear their railway clothing (Nicolò wears a preserved uniform from FS times). We met both as young boys still attending mandatory school, or just after that. Now they are railwaymen in their working and free time. Both work for Rete Ferroviaria Italiana, the company maintaining and controlling the network.

    And now some videos:

    This one is from one of the visitors



    And this is to celebrate our 20 years of activity




    Just a note. I did not cry when I first saw the 880 moving livc. A friend of mine, another of the "first 12" described my reaction as "typical British". Indeed. It was like the victory cry of the Pictish warriors. not exactly recent, but something from the British Islands indeed.

    The following pictures are from another visitor. Mr. Masala is a well known photographer, possibly still a volunteer in railway preservation.

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    The crowd attending to some shunting over the turntable.

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    Black and white evokes the past.

    And now a picture that really shows how happy where our visitors!

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    Giovanni receives the thanksgiving from a happy visitor.

    (more pictures to come)
     
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