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Steam Dreams 2026

Discussion in 'What's Going On' started by GWR7812, Oct 1, 2025.

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  1. JEB-245584

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    Or this one the Saturday before?

    https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:U06947/2026-11-14/detailed
     
    JEB-245584, Oct 16, 2026 at 11:36 AM
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    I've done a comparison for the 2 KGX to York trips in Nov.

    LSL KGX to York 16th Nov takes just over 5 hrs 15 minutes. Passengers have 3 and a half hours in York and are due back at KGX at 2150.

    RTC KGX to York 21st Nov takes just over an hour longer at 6 hrs 20 minutes. Passengers have 3 hours in York and are due back at KGX at 2318.

    Dave B
     
    Groks212, Oct 16, 2026 at 11:48 PM
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    Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

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    It looks to me as though the difference is to do with a 60 mph path v a 75 mph path.

    LSL uses 75 mph locos and 75 mph paths. WCR cannot guarantee 75 mph locos as at present they use Black 5s and generally they always have 60 mph paths, even if the loco up front is a Bulleid.

    And that's before we start talking about overloaded trains where the necessary diesel has to work in tandem with the loco up front.

    These are business and operational decisions but they do spell out differences that the market can choose to react to, or not.
     
    Big Al, Oct 17, 2026 at 8:20 AM
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    Enterprise Part of the furniture

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    Doesn't seem long ago to me when KX to York with steam was not much more than 4 hours. Don't bother telling me why it's no longer possible; I know why, just dreaming!
     
    Enterprise, Oct 17, 2026 at 9:50 AM
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    When the journey will take longer, for whatever reason, there may be a trade-off between a very early starting time and too little time at the destination, though the early start may be the only way to find a path between all the regular traffic.
     
    MellishR, Oct 17, 2026 at 10:43 AM
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    They also go different routes and have different water stops so who knows which element is dictating things. It could be that the speed forces a route off the ECML or just make it take longer or it could be that route knowledge sets the route and the speed makes no difference or even that perhaps for some reason WC/RTC are not willing to or cant stop for water in the same places as LSL which again dictates the route or a combination of all 3 or other factors we are not party to.
     
    Beardy, Oct 18, 2026 at 5:49 PM
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    3 x York to Edinburgh Market excursions announced, utilising the Tyne Valley Line, then Steam from Carlisle to Edinburgh, via Carstairs.

    You have to ask what motive power will be used, from Carlisle and Return.

    If to time 3:40 in Edinburgh.
     
    guycarr360, Oct 21, 2026 at 5:31 PM
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    You'd have thought 60532 & 60007.
     
    JBTEvans, Oct 21, 2026 at 8:11 PM
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    Where's this on the website? Just see the Edinburgh 3 day tour from kings Cross in November
     
    Alexbrown123, Oct 21, 2026 at 8:31 PM
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    Are these being confused for the three RYTC tours advertised for this year's festive period?
     
    jonathonag, Oct 21, 2026 at 11:09 PM
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