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7760 for sale?

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by Matt78, Jul 8, 2009.

  1. Bob Meanley

    Bob Meanley New Member

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    Not quite correct Pan Man. It is not the worst of the three and none of them are bad. It is for sale repaired with a ten year ticket. It has also only done about 11000 miles since the firebox bottom plates and shoulders were renewed, and the foundation ring re-riveted.

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  2. Pete Thornhill

    Pete Thornhill Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Administrator Moderator Friend

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    Didn't realise that you were going to ticket it Bob. I take it you are confident that it wont need much work then.
     
  3. Pannier Man

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    Nice one Bob. That should generate some serious interest, a pannier ready to go!!
    Although I would imagine it will go for an "un-disclosed sum", I'd certainly be interested to know
    what a newly ticketed pannier is worth next time I see you. Best of luck with the sale.
     
  4. il chuck in 50p if its painted wartime black - "tyseley has too much stuff, not enough money and not enough work" an EX tyseley person said recently, its true when you look at it 4965 out of ticket pending overhaul, 7029 awaiting funds for overhaul, 5080 awaiting funds for overhaul, 5593 awaiting funds for overhaul, 5043 in ticket, 9600 in ticket, 7760 under overhaul prior to sale, 7752 out of ticket, cadbury No.1 out of ticket, Henry out of ticket, not to mention Bloomer still incomplete..............there are halls and 9466 based at Tyseley, but there is still very little mainline work.

    yes all preserved lines have more locos than can be reasonably kept in ticket at any one time, but, with Tyseleys collection the point im making i sthey have more locos than they have work for, 13 shakespeares is work but its not 13 trains a day or anything like that, 11 other main line trips is work i agree, but again, its not likely to require more than 2 or athe most 3 locos in steam at a time, i cant name my EX Tyseley person, but will say he was at Tyseley virtually from beginning, and as far as i know, didnt see eye to eye with certain members of Tyseley management, i guess one of the points i was attempting to make was in MY OPINION, selling 7760 for funds towards 7029 seems a little extreme, what next 7752 to fund 5593 ? i just think when you start selling assets to fund the repair of other asstes is a snowbal that gets bigger, and what happens when the asstes are all gone and you need funds for overhauls again ?

    Opening Tyseley to regular visitors again, might just bring some money in ??
     
  5. gw driver

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    Just for the record. 9466 is not based at Tyseley. Its home base has been and always will be the Bucks Railway Centre at Quainton. The locomotive, owner and support team enjoy the hospitality and facilities of the Tyseley organisation, and in particular Messrs Meanley and Meanley, when the opportunity of main line running as organised by Vintage Trains arises. I would like to place on record our combined thanks to everyone at Tyseley for their help and assistance over the past two years.

    Incidentally, as mentioned in another thread 9466 and 9600 venture out onto the National Network on 14th November for a run to Ironbridge and the Severn Valley Railway. It should be a good run. Two panniers on the main line plus at least one more on the Valley has got to be good value for money!

    Regards to all,

    Bruce Murray
     
  6. david1984

    david1984 Resident of Nat Pres

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    Sorry but i think your post is ill thought out at best

    A lot of the Tyseley collection was bought in when it was a choice between saving it or seeing it go for scrap, even then for a large part of the 70's and 80's running it up and down a demo line was deemed acceptable as we were glad just to have these things, since then time has moved on, Tyseleys main concern now is mainline running and an engineering site, that instantly makes all of the Tank engines and Industrials of little or no use and the decision to sell 7760 is sensible in this respect, Henry & Cadbury's are out of ticket since it is unlikely there will be enough work for them to justify the expense needed to make them operational at present.

    As for the larger loco's i think you'll find 4965 is actually under overhaul than awaiting and is in not bad nick at all, as for the others they may be out of ticket but there's no point having loco's in ticket when there isn't enough work for them, many lines have out of ticket loco's sitting around the place waiting for their turn in the queue including your very own SVR (see Highley and outside Bridgnorth) so quite why you think it fair to give this critiscism at Tyseley when really it is true of EVERY preservation centre seems somewhat strange to me.

    Current loco's in ticket at Tyseley are 5043, 5029, 4936, 4953, 9600, Peckett 2004 with 4965 likely to return before 09 is out, hardley "all out of ticket" is it ?.
     
  7. saltydog

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    Care to name your ex Tyseley person?
    "Tyseley has too much stuff".....as David 1984 said take a look around your own SVR or come to that almost any other heritage operation and I think you'll find that most of them have "too much stuff". This was thankfully due to a policy in the aftermath of the end of steam of buy it or see it gas axed.
    "Not enough money". Care to name a heritage operation that has enough money? If so may be we could ask them for some of their spare cash. ](*,)
    "Not enough work". 13 Shakespeare Express's between July and September and 11 other mainline tours between 31 August and 12 December gives the lie to that one.
    As for the Bloomer see this topic viewtopic.php?f=28&t=20225 and then you'll understand why it is a project that is taking a bit of time to come to fruition.
    And 4965 is definitely in the process of being overhauled.
     
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    Some of us take a more realistic view of what is needed to keep the Tyseley Collection relevant to what is required to keep our fleet operational. And if that means selling some of our assets to keep the fleet up to date and fit for mainline operations so be it.
    I would rather trust the intentions of the present management from the chairman down than the embittered thoughts of someone who as you say "didn't see eye to eye with certain members of Tyseley management".
    So which do you want? A museum full of non working engines, or a slimmed down fleet of engines out on the mainline strutting their stuff?
    As for selling off the crown jewels of the Tyesely Collection to fund projects, I think I can safely say on behalf of every one at Tyseley it just wont happen.
    So come clean, what would you rather see? A fully restored Clun Castle back on the mainline where she belongs or an out of ticket pannier sitting gathering dust?
    And you want to see Tyseley open to regular visitors again. Would you be willing to come down every Saturday & Sunday and spend seven or eight hours each day giving visitors the experience they expect whilst the rest of us get on with the important tasks of overhauling engines and preparation of engines for mainline tours? Like all heritage sites we are always looking for volunteers.
    As for 13 Shakespeares not being 13 trains a day.....well what can I say but ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)
    And to finish I would like to paraphrase an old Rolling Stones song "He's A Rainbow". \:D/ \:D/
    And one final word of advice......never allow yourself to be used as a mouthpiece for someone with an axe to grind. Let them do their own dirty work.....if they have the courage of their convictions.
    If you really are serious in believing 7760 shouldn't be sold to help fund 7029's overhaul then the answer is simple. Write out a cheque to cover the full cost of the overhaul. I'm sure it would be gratefully received.
     
  9. oldmrheath

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    Strange post- claiming that Tyseley has too many locos and then criticising for sale of one. Opening to visitors again would seem unlikely to require restoration of anything more than Cadbury No.1.
    Out of ticket locos awaiting overhaul are by no means exclusive to Tyseley.
     
  10. homingpigeon08

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    I for one will be sad to see 7760 leave Tyseley as it means one less green engine in Birmingham. :smt073
    I hope it goes to a good home. [-o<
     
  11. buzby2

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    Don't recall seeing any subsequent announcements.
    Have the 7029 group managed to sell 7760 and, if so, to whom?
     
  12. oddsocks

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    See "Steam Beano" No.375, page 67 for the answer to that.

    Regards, Oddsocks.
     
  13. paullad1984

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    sadly i dont have a copy to hand, i stopped buying it as im currently trying to save some cash!
     
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    Thanks.
    T'would appear no-one was interested last year - or perhaps it was the cost?
     
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    paulad1984: basically it's a half-page advert headed "would you like to own a pannier?"

    Regards, Oddsocks.
     
  16. paullad1984

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    wheres my euromillions ticket! how much do they want?
     
  17. paullad1984

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    surely someone on here could give me an idea of how much they'd want for it, surely its not an impossible question!
     
  18. ilvaporista

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    It's like asking the price of a Ferrari. If you have to ask then you can't afford it..
    Nobody these days sells decent steam engines at just the cost of scrap metal. Why should they.
     
  19. paullad1984

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    I didnt say i could afford it, was just curious, and i didnt expect it to be sold at scrap value
     
  20. matt41312

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    I remember reading I think in the Steam Beano that Tysley wanted to use the funds from 7760's sale on overhauling Clun Castle, which is rumoured to be in the region of £250K. If you do your sums correctly, you get an idea of how much they would be expecting to receive.
     

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