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SECR "Dance Hall" Brake Vans.

Discussie in 'Heritage Rolling Stock' gestart door cct man, 19 jul 2009.

  1. cct man

    cct man Part of the furniture

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    Hi folks:

    Sometime soon it is intended to restore the the "Dance Hall" that we have in store, and it got me thinking how many of these vehicles are left.

    I know the Bluebell have one which is currently out of traffic and Southern Locomotives are doing a protracted resoration also on the Bluebell and we at the the Mid-Hants have number three.

    Anymore out there please?

    Best regards
    Chris
     
  2. Bestieboy

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    Hi Chris
    I know of the following...

    All design 1560
    SECR 11902 (SR 55466)- Wymondham Station, Ashford 1921 converted to Mess Van
    SECR 11916 (SR 55477) - Bluebell Railway, Ashford 1923
    SECR 11934 (SR 55490) - Bluebell Railway, Ashford 1923
    SR 55506 - Mid Hants, Lancing 1926
    SR 55513 - Mangapps, Lancing 1927

    Steve
     
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    Thanks steve, I am obliged to you.

    Regards
    Chris
     
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    As it happens, I know of another one. Unfortunately, I am not sure I am at liberty to say where it is! I will check on that, and post if it's ok!
     
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    I would love to have one of these... ah well. 8-[
     
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    I think Bachman do a small one Phil =D> .

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    I think Bachman do a small one Phil =D> .[/quote:1u3i48iv]
    Now, you know that wasn't what I meant!

    Phil
    (owner of about 6.3 wagons... but no brake van!)
     
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    I think Bachman do a small one Phil =D> .[/quote:3dsils8n]
    Now, you know that wasn't what I meant!

    Phil
    (owner of about 6.3 wagons... but no brake van!)[/quote:3dsils8n]

    Just kidding. \:D/

    Chris
     
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    I've just come across another one of these I forgot to list first time round.
    55494 SR 25t Brake 'Dance Hall' Prestongrange Mining Museum G Lancing 1926 [1560]

    This looks to be in a poorly condition and had some kind of conversion in the past, tool van possibly?
    Steve
     
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    That does look poorly. I'm assuming this no longer exists or moved on from the K&ESR. The one at Prestongrange does have some bodywork. Both the verandah's are sealed.
    Steve
     
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    Prestongrange Mining Museum has a website; a few railway items sneak into the pictures, e.g.

    http://www.prestongrange.org/tour/5.html
    http://www.prestongrange.org/tour/7.html
    http://www.prestongrange.org/tour/8.html
    http://www.prestongrange.org/tour/9.html
    http://www.prestongrange.org/tour/prestongrange.pdf

    From which I can see at least five standard gauge and one (maybe two) narrow gauge open wagon(s), plus the brake van which sneaks into a photo on the PDF flyer. One of the standard gauge wagons is obviously a 16T mineral wagon.

    Well, if I'm ever up that way I'll have a look. I'm not actively looking for any more wagons at present, I have quite enough restoration projects to keep me busy for a while!

    Phil
     
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    The van is still at KESR, hopefully now ownership issues have been sorted out restoration might move onto the agenda.
     
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    Hi Phil
    Looking at the snippet from the pdf shot it looks like they've done an enormous amount of work on it compared to an old pic I noticed a while ago! I suppose this means it'll not be going anywhere soon?
    6S1001, do you know the I/d of the one at the K&ESR? I have no record or sighting from several recent reports of this being there?
    Steve
     
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    I will ask around for you, see if I can turn anything up.
     
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    Wrong! Its still there but not in a normally visible location. The only change that I can recall is that a small tree was growing in it. That said, I believe there are plans for it next year.
     
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    Ok Kesbobby. I'll add this to my lists as unidentified for now. Hopefully it's future plans are positive.
    Steve
     
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    It seems that no-one is really sure of its identity. The best bet at the moment is the hope that it will be found somewhere on the underframe once the restoration starts.
     
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    Cheers. At least 'once restoration starts' is good!
    Did the SECR hammer stamp the frame? It could of course be a later SR built example?
    Steve
     

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