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6023 King Edward 11

Rasprava u 'Steam Traction' pokrenuta od cct man, 1. Veljača 2010..

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  1. Kinghambranch

    Kinghambranch Well-Known Member

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    More excellent news! 2807 passed its hydraulic test last week too!
     
    Kinghambranch, 15. Ožujak 2010.
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  2. Dan Hill

    Dan Hill Part of the furniture

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    Good news about the hydraulic test (both 6023 and 2807). I think a Blue King will look fantastic and I've always loved that BR Express Passenger Blue liviery.
     
    Dan Hill, 15. Ožujak 2010.
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  3. Steve from GWR

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    It will be great when 6023 is running again.

    As an aside, not my main point, I never saw a GWR mainline engine in blue, and look forward to seeing it in the flesh. I love Sir Nigel Gresley in blue, but I must admit the pics on the 6023 website leave me a bit doubtful!!!!!! Anyway, i will stay open-minded.
     
    Steve from GWR, 15. Ožujak 2010.
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  4. saltydog

    saltydog Part of the furniture

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    A blue King on the mainline, bring it on.
    Variety is the spice of life!!!!
     
    saltydog, 15. Ožujak 2010.
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    That's brilliant news! And for 2807 too! Can't wait to see a BR Blue King gracing the mainline along with 6024. I look forward also to hearing a single chimney King for the first time as well.
     
    05micfis, 15. Ožujak 2010.
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    if 5051 is anything to go by in the volume dept, than a single chimnied king will be very loud indeed :)
     
    Railcar22, 16. Ožujak 2010.
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  7. Ben Jervis

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    6023 certaintly will look the part! Does anyone know if it has retained the 4 row superheater or if that has been retrograded too? Also, i'm interested to see how it will compare with 6024 in terms of performance. Anyway, we'll see :)
     
    Ben Jervis, 16. Ožujak 2010.
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  8. Sidmouth

    Sidmouth Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Moderator

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    still has 4 row superheater to my knowledge
     
    Sidmouth, 16. Ožujak 2010.
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  9. Ben Jervis

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    Blimey...That single chimney won't like that! With all that superheated steam going to the cylinders won't the loco 'choke'???
     
    Ben Jervis, 16. Ožujak 2010.
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  10. Sidmouth

    Sidmouth Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Moderator

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    Now i'm not involved with 6023 , but my understanding is that the draughting is the final version to go with the single chimney . Now I have, as with all the loco's,to believe that those involved know what they are doing .

    when she is returned to steam we'll find out

    Now if we could get 6024 back to full height and see two truly regal Kings together
     
    Sidmouth, 16. Ožujak 2010.
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  11. Pannier Man

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    IMHO it'll be the volume of steam escaping from the cylinders compared to the re-configured single blast pipe / chimney configuration thats more important than the addition of an extra row of superheaters. You can bet your first railtour ticket cost, they'll have certainly done their homework on that one!!
     
    Pannier Man, 17. Ožujak 2010.
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    Kings ran with the single chimney & 4 row combo from 1948-58. A decade, in other words.

    There seems to be a lot of silly chatter with regards to the King. The single chimney is not going to turn it into some time-bomb, which will cause the engine to catastrophically fail the moment you open the regulator, so you can all relax.
     
    Kerosene Castle, 18. Ožujak 2010.
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    silly chatter on here - surely not!
     
    6024KEI, 18. Ožujak 2010.
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  14. baldric

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    But the colour may????

    Ducks and runs away!
     
    baldric, 18. Ožujak 2010.
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  15. Nick Gough

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    Sir Felix Pole was right about that!
     
    Nick Gough, 18. Ožujak 2010.
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  16. Ben Jervis

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    Maybe not, but they were fitted with double chimneys for a reason, weren't they? ;)

    I'm looking forward to seeing it (and hearing it for that matter :D ) but it's not going to be anywhere near as good as 6024 in terms of mainline performance. I'm not knocking it, I'm just stating a fact.
     
    Ben Jervis, 18. Ožujak 2010.
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  17. Gwenllian2001

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    Surely this was done to counteract the falling quality of the coal that was available.

    Meic
     
    Gwenllian2001, 18. Ožujak 2010.
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  18. Ben Jervis

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    Indeed it was. Unfortunately, the coal locos use these days isn't much better and Swindon products tend to be very very fussy.
     
    Ben Jervis, 18. Ožujak 2010.
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    This is completely out of the box, but I've always wondered what good a Lemaitre multiple-jet blastpipe and wide diameter chimney would have done to the performance of a 'King' class locomotive? Would it have improved steaming more than the fitting of a double chimney? Or was it actually marked out as unsuitable by Western Region staff?
     
    Bulleid Pacific, 19. Ožujak 2010.
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  20. Penricecastle

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    I'm pretty sure it will have the "sleeved" single chimney which was introduced around 1952/53. This coupled with the four-row superheater apparently made the Kings stronger. Remember the 27 coach test runs with 6001 (I think)? The only downside, I believe, was higher than ideal back-presurre at speed. The double-chimney cured that. O.S.Nock timed a sleeved single chimney King at over 100mph, at Dauntsey (I think), so they could still move.

    As for the sound effects. I remember Steve Underhill, one time 6024 stalwart, once saying to me "if you think ours makes a noise, what 'till you hear that one" (6023).
     
    Penricecastle, 19. Ožujak 2010.
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