10 1/4 inch gauge railways

Does anyone know of any published plans for this gauge apart from the "Priest" types at the south downs railway. There are lots of steam engines in existence but not much data that is easily accessible.

Mike Hanson
www.rlsr.org/Locomotives.htm

 

I have never seen any allthough i would be interested to see some perhaps the simpkins family has some??

 

Try FMB Engineering in Fareham. They are doing a 10 1/4 Terrier.

 

Bassett Lowke published plans for a 10 1/4 Ryal Scot in the late 1950's . early 1960's. There are some still around and I have a nearly complete set. We also have others at Stapleford. Neil Simpkins drew me up a set of plans for a Duchess in 10 1/4 about 10 years ago. Still not built though!

 

A few I'm aware of, although those kept at private address' are mostly unknown to me.
Steve

Class/Type Owner/Operator Liv Details Notes
2-8-2 Audley End Miniature Railway Curwen 1977 "10¼"" - 489, Sara Lucy"
4-4-2 Audley End Miniature Railway Curwen 1965 "10¼"" - 4433"
2-6-2 Audley End Miniature Railway Curwen 1991 "10¼"" - 24, Bruce"
4-4-0 Audley End Miniature Railway Curwen 1994 "10¼"" - 1680, Loyalty"
2-4-2 Audley End Miniature Railway Curwen 1997 "10¼"" - Barbara Curwen"
4-6-0 Audley End Miniature Railway Simkins 2004 "10¼"" - 2914, Saint Augustine"
2-6-2 Audley End Miniature Railway Curwen 1948 "10¼"" - 3548, Lord Braybrooke"
0-6-2T Beale Railway M ESR 1991 "10¼"" ex 12¼"" in 2000 - John-Remy"
2-6-4T Bickington Steam Railway Simkins 1974 "10¼"" - 1, E.R. Calthrop"
4-4-2 Bickington Steam Railway Curwen 1948 "10¼"" - 750, Blanche of Lancaster"
2-6-2 Bickington Steam Railway Coleby 1991 "10¼"" - 24, 'Sandy River'"
2-6-0 Bickington Steam Railway Simkins 1984 "10¼"" - Alice"
0-4-2T Bolebroke Castle & Lakes Railway StubbsJ 1993 "10¼"" - Timothy"
2-6-2T Bolebroke Castle & Lakes Railway Bimpson 1994 "10¼"" - Rheidol"
0-6-0T Bolebroke Castle & Lakes Railway Bickton - u/c "10¼"" - Bolebroke Castle"
0-4-0ST Bolebroke Castle & Lakes Railway Mckie 2004 "10¼"" - Lilla"
0-4-0ST Bolebroke Castle & Lakes Railway /???? "10¼"" - Geraldine"
4-6-2 Bolebroke Castle & Lakes Railway Mardyke ???? "10¼"" - 35028, Clan Lane"
2-6-2T Bolebroke Castle & Lakes Railway SimsD 1991 "10¼"" - Moutaineer"
0-4-0ST Bolebroke Castle & Lakes Railway CarrP 1995 "10¼"" - Linda"
0-4-0ST Bolebroke Castle & Lakes Railway Bennett 1983 "10¼"" - Charles"
4-6-2 Bolebroke Castle & Lakes Railway Mardyke ???? "10¼"" - 34051, Winston Churchill"
0-4-0ST+T Bressingham Steam Museum R GrayP 1995 "10¼"" - 1, Alan Bloom"
4-6-2 Eastleigh Lakeside Steam Railway G DoveE 1948 "10¼"" - 70055, Rob Roy"
4-6-2 Eastleigh Lakeside Steam Railway B DoveE 1946 "10¼"" - 6220, Coronation"
4-4-2 Eastleigh Lakeside Steam Railway G G&S 1937 "10¼"" - 1908, Ernest Henry Upton"
4-6-2 Eastleigh Lakeside Steam Railway LB Bullock 1932 "10¼"" - 1001, The Monarch"
2-4-2 Eastleigh Lakeside Steam Railway R Bimpson 1983 "10¼"" - 7, Sandy River"
4-6-2 Eastleigh Lakeside Steam Railway G Bullock 1936 "10¼"" - 2006, Edward VIII"
4-6-2 Eastleigh Lakeside Steam Railway G Bullock 1933 "10¼"" - 1002, The Empress"
4-6-0 Eastleigh Lakeside Steam Railway G MoodyJ 2007 "10¼"" - 850, Lord Nelson"
4-6-2 Eastleigh Lakeside Steam Railway B KirklandW 1964 "10¼"" - 4498, Sir Nigel Gresley"
4-6-2 Kerr's Miniature Railway Bullock 1935 "10¼"" - 2005, King George Vl"
0-6-0 Kerr's Miniature Railway Bullock 1936 "10¼"" - 3007, Firefly"
0-4-0T Kerr's Miniature Railway WattD 1994 "10¼"" s/o - Tich"
4-4-2 Kirkby Green Light Railway SMR 1952 "10¼"" - 5091, Victory"
4-4-2 Kirkby Green Light Railway SMR 1948 "10¼"" - 4808, Vangaurd"
4-4-2 Kirkby Green Light Railway SMR 1948 "10¼"" - 4906, Valiant"
4-6-2 'Pacific' Kirkby Green Light Railway Curwen 1947 "10¼"" - 1946, William Bell"
0-6-0T Knebworth Park Miniature Railway G KingD 1981 "10¼"" - Pilgrim"
2-6-2T Mull & West Highland Railway B VereD 1993 "10¼"" - Victoria"
2-6-4T Mull & West Highland Railway VereD 2010 "10¼"" u/c"
2-6-4T Mull & West Highland Railway MarshR 1981 "10¼"" - Lady of the Isles"
4-6-0 Newby Hall Miniature Railway M Battison 1953 "10¼"" - 6100, Royal Scot"
0-4-4T Orchard Farm Lakeside Railway /2010 "10¼"" u/c - Glanllyn"
4-6-0 Royal Victoria Railway LowkeB 1938 "10¼"" - 6100, Royal Scot"
2-4-4T Royal Victoria Railway Narrogauge 1984 "10¼"" - 5, Peter the Private"
2-6-0 Royal Victoria Railway Curwen 1977 "10¼"" - 4, Isambard Kingdom Brunel"
2-6-0+0-6-2 Royal Victoria Railway Kitsons 1938 "10¼"" - 2, Basil the Brigadier"
0-6-2 Royal Victoria Railway MarshR 1976 "10¼"" - 3, Trevithick"
4-4-2 Rudyard Lake Steam Railway Curwen 1952 "10¼"" - 196, Waverley"
2-4-2T Rudyard Lake Steam Railway ESR 1993 "10¼"" - 6, Excalibur"
2-4-2T Rudyard Lake Steam Railway ESR 1994 "10¼"" - 9, Pendragon"
2-4-2T Rudyard Lake Steam Railway ESR 1998 "10¼"" - 7, Merlin"
0-6-2T Rudyard Lake Steam Railway ESR 2005 "10¼"" - 8, King Arthur"
0-6-0ST Shibden Miniature Railway R Taylor B 1984 "10¼"" - 1, Ivor"
0-4-2T South Downs Light Railway ESR 2007 "10¼"" - 334, Peggy"
4-6-0 South Downs Light Railway G&S 1950 "10¼"" - 5156, Ayrshire Yeomanry"
4-6-0 South Downs Light Railway Gutzewitz 1973 "10¼"" - 46100, Royal Scot"
0-6-0ST South Downs Light Railway HudellJ 1982 "10¼"" - Arthur"
2-6-0 South Downs Light Railway HowardP 1988 "10¼"" - 13245"
4-6-0 South Downs Light Railway HowardP 1994 "10¼"" - 771, Sir Sagramore"
0-4-2T South Downs Light Railway ESR 2004 "10¼"" - 319, Pulborough"
4-6-2 South Downs Light Railway Mahoney 1935 "10¼"" - 4472, Flying Scotsman"
0-4-2ST South Downs Light Railway FavellG 2001 "10¼"" - 1, Alice"
4-6-0 Stapleford Miniature Railway G&S 1939 "10¼"" - 2943, Hampton Court"
2-8-4 Stapleford Miniature Railway WilksJ 2008 "10¼"" - 3103"
4-8-4 Stapleford Miniature Railway WilksJ 1997 "10¼"" - 6019"
4-6-0 Stapleford Miniature Railway Coleby 1975 "10¼"" - 5565, Victroria"
2-8-4 Stapleford Miniature Railway Coleby 1972 "10¼"" - 752"
4-4-2 Stapleford Miniature Railway Curwen 1948 "10¼"" - 751, John H.Gretton"
0-4-0ST+T Watford Miniature Railway G Richards 1977 "10¼"" - Lady Jean"
0-6-0 Watford Miniature Railway M MorseR 1946 "10¼"" - 4179, Chiltern Shuttle"
2-6-0 Watford Miniature Railway B Willis 1993 "10¼"" - 7, Marri"
2-6-0+0-6-2 Wells & Walsingham Light Railway B Simkins 1986 "10¼"" - 3, Norfolk Hero"
0-4-2WT+T Wells Harbour Railway KingD 1972 "10¼"" - Edmund Hannay"
2-4-2 'Atlantic' Wimbish Light Railway R WoodcockG 1970 "10¼"" - Lynn"
0-4-4 Wimbish Light Railway K WoodcockG 1972 "10¼"" - Little Nell"
4-6-0 Wimbish Light Railway M Winkler Eng 1963 "10¼"" - 6100, Royal Scot"
4-6-0 Wimbish Light Railway M Severn Lamb 1982 "10¼"" - 6135, Little David"

Class/Type Owner/Operator Liv Details Notes
0-4-0+0-4-0DH Audley End Miniature Railway Crowhurst 1991 "10¼"" - 691, Henrietta Jane"
0-6-0PM Audley End Miniature Railway Curwen 1982 "10¼"" - 682, Doris"
4w-4wDH Beale Railway Beale Park 2007 "10¼"" - Elli Che"
4w-4wDH Beale Railway Guest 1960 "10¼"" - Sir Humphrey Davy"
4w-4wDH Bickington Steam Railway Nicholson 1987 "10¼"" - D5910"
6w-6wDH Bolebroke Castle & Lakes Railway Mardyke 1989 "10¼"" - 47548"
4w-4wDH Bolebroke Castle & Lakes Railway Greatrex 2008 "10¼"" - 7443"
4w-4wDH Bolebroke Castle & Lakes Railway Greatrex 2007 "10¼"""
0-4-0DH Bolebroke Castle & Lakes Railway /???? "10¼"" - 6, Green Gremlin"
4w-4wPH Bolebroke Castle & Lakes Railway Greatrex 2001 "10¼"" - 6000"
4-4wPH Brooklands Miniature Railway HudellJ 1985 "10¼"" s/o"
0-6-2DH Cattle Country Miniature Railway R NemethJ 2008 "10¼"" s/o"
B-B Eastleigh Lakeside Steam Railway Y MillardR 1994 "10¼"" - 1, Ernie"
0-6-0DH Eastleigh Lakeside Steam Railway B ELSR 1999 "10¼"" - 92, Florence"
4w-4wDE Eastleigh Lakeside Steam Railway Si ELSR 1999 "10¼"" - Jubilee"
4wDM Exmouth Express R Kichenside 1978 "10¼"""
0-6-0DH Ferry Meadows Railway R Alan Keef 1999 "10¼"" s/o - Charles"
6w-6PM '52 Western' FMB Engineering Co. Ltd Severn Lamb 1969 "10¼"" - D1015, Western Champion"
4-4wDH Happy Mount Express R Northen 2000 "10¼"""
0-6-0DH Hastings Miniature Railway B Alan Keef 1990 "10¼"" s/o - 31, Swee' Pea"
4-4wPM Jungle Express Guest 1939 "10¼"""
4-4wDM Jungle Express Nicholson 1995 "10¼"" - 4808, Peter"
4-4-2PM Kerr's Miniature Railway Jennings 1935 "10¼"" s/o - 9872, Auld Reekie"
0-6-0PM Kerr's Miniature Railway Coleby 1972 "10¼"" - Ivor"
4-4wPM Kerr's Miniature Railway Eastwood 1981 "10¼"" - 25081"
4-4wPM Kerr's Miniature Railway Eastwood 1982 "10¼"" - D7594"
Bo-BoDE 'Class 37' Kirkby Green Light Railway MotleyG 2006 "10¼"" - 37501, Steel Master"
4wPM Knebworth Park Miniature Railway OR Fairweather 1994 "10¼"" - John Glenn"
4-4wPM Knebworth Park Miniature Railway G PaigntonZoo 1960 "10¼"" - D801, Jungle Express"
4-4wDM Knebworth Park Miniature Railway R Hughes 1968 "10¼"" - Uncle Jim"
4w-4wDH Knebworth Park Miniature Railway R/W Fenlow 1972 "10¼"" - Rhuddlan Castle"
4wPM Knebworth Park Miniature Railway M Fairweather 2001 "10¼"" - Midget"
2-4w-2PM Knebworth Park Miniature Railway G SMP 1970 "10¼"" - Meteor V"
4w-4PH '52 Western' Lappa Valley Steam Railway Severn Lamb 1981 "10¼"" - Duke of Cornwall"
0-6-0DH Lappa Valley Steam Railway B Alan Keef 2008 "10¼"" - Eric"
2w-2PM Melton Mowbray Miniature Railway DG WilcoxG 1968 "10¼"" - D1417"
4w-4wDH Mull & West Highland Railway G VereD 1999 "10¼"" - Francis"
4-4wPM Mull & West Highland Railway AllcockA 1973 "10¼"" - NM2"
4w-4wDH Mull & West Highland Railway DaviesR 1986 "10¼"" - Glen Audlyn"
4w-4Gas-H '52 Western' Newby Hall Miniature Railway Severn Lamb 1973 "10¼"" - Countess De Grey"
6-6wGas-M '52 Western' Newby Hall Miniature Railway Severn Lamb 1970 "10¼"" - D1017, Lady Mary-Vyner"
6w-6wDM Orchard Farm Lakeside Railway YatesR 1979 "10¼"" - Orchard Flyer"
4wDH Orchard Farm Lakeside Railway YatesR 2002 "10¼"" - Hunmanby Flyer"
2-4w-2DH Paradise Wildlife Park B PWP 1998 "10¼"" s/o - 1"
2-4w-2DM Paradise Wildlife Park SMP 1971 "10¼"" s/o - 6"
4w-4wDH Pettitts Animal Adventure Park Miniature Railway DG Pettitts 1990 "10¼"" s/o"
0-6-0PH Poole Park Railway Roanoke 2005 "10¼"" s/o - 1, Tom"
4-6wDH Poole Park Railway SMR 1959 "10¼"" - D107"
4-6wDH Poole Park Railway SMR 1964 "10¼"""
2-6-0DH Queens Park Miniature Railway B Severn Lamb 1988 "10¼"" s/o - Puffin' Billy"
6w-6PH '52 Western' Royal Victoria Railway Severn Lamb 1967 "10¼"" - D1002, Western Explorer"
6w-6PH '52 Western' Royal Victoria Railway Curwen 1964 "10¼"" - D1000, Western Independence"
6w-6PH '52 Western' Royal Victoria Railway M Curwen 1964 "10¼"" - D1011, Western Thunderer"
4w-4wDH Royal Victoria Railway BowersP 1996 "10¼"" - 1, Maurice the Major"
4wPM Rudyard Lake Steam Railway StanhopeT 1969 "10¼"" - 2, Mordred"
4-4wDM Rudyard Lake Steam Railway SmithL 1989 "10¼"" - 5, Rudyard Lady"
2-8-0PH Savilles Garden Centre Severn Lamb 1978 "10¼"" s/o - 278"
4wDE Shibden Miniature Railway Norris K 2009 "10¼"" u/c - Elliot"
4w-4wDE Shibden Miniature Railway Hunt G 1959 "10¼"" - Ivan"
4w-4wDH South Downs Light Railway Mardyke 1982 "10¼"" - D7062, Artic Prince"
4w-4DH South Downs Light Railway FavellG 1999 "10¼"" - D7054"
0-4-0PH South Downs Light Railway Roanoke 2004 "10¼"" - Merlin"
4wPM South Downs Light Railway Coleby 1971 "10¼"" - Tinkerbell"
2-8-0DH St Annes Miniature Railway MossAJ 2005 "10¼"" s/o - Harry's Dream"
4w-4DH '52 Western' St Annes Miniature Railway Severn Lamb 1973 "10¼"" - St Annes Express"
4w-4wPM Stapleford Miniature Railway Curwen 1962 "10¼"" - D100, The White Heron"
2-8-0DH Twycross Zoo Miniature Railway LB Severn Lamb 1983 "10¼"" s/o - 278"
2-4w-2DM Vanstone Woodland Railway B SMP 1969 "10¼"" - Sandham Castle"
2-4w-2DM Vanstone Woodland Railway Y SMP 1971 "10¼"" - Meteor IX"
2-4w-2DM Vanstone Woodland Railway G SMP 1969 "10¼"" - Meteor IV"
2-4w-2DM Vanstone Woodland Railway M SMP ???? "10¼"" - Borough of Buxton"
4-4wDH 'Deltic' Wat Tyler Miniature Railway Mardyke u/c "10¼"""
4w-4PM 'Class 31' Wat Tyler Miniature Railway B Ford ???? "10¼"" op - 31327, The Goyle"
4w-4PH 'Hymek' Wat Tyler Miniature Railway Cromar 1971 "10¼"" std dsm - D7022, Sid Tydnall"
4w-4wDH Watford Miniature Railway Fenlow 1972 "10¼"" - Conway Castle"
0-6-0DH Watford Miniature Railway PrimeR 1988 "10¼"" - Nikki Louise"
4w-4wDH Wells & Walsingham Light Railway MillsA 1993 "10¼"" - Norfolk Harvester"
6wDH Wells & Walsingham Light Railway Alan Keef 1985 "10¼"" s/o - 2, Weasel"
4wPM Wells Harbour Railway KingD 1980 "10¼"" - 'Weasel'"
0-6-0DH Wells Harbour Railway Alan Keef 1998 "10¼"" s/o - Densil"
0-6-0DH Wells Harbour Railway Alan Keef 2005 "10¼"" s/o - Howard"
2-6-0DH Weymouth Bay Miniature Railway Severn Lamb 1990 "10¼"" s/o - 1890"
4-4wPE Weymouth Bay Miniature Railway HuntG ???? "10¼"""
0-B-0 1/3hp Wimbish Light Railway Terry 1980 "10¼"" - Foxley"
Bo-Bo 'RC-10' 5hp Wimbish Light Railway R Cromar White 1974 "10¼"" - ASEA Minor"

Class/Type Owner/Operator Liv Details Notes
4wBE Bolebroke Castle & Lakes Railway /???? "10¼"""
4w-4w-4wBER Bolebroke Castle & Lakes Railway Richards 1998 "10¼"" - Doris"
4wBE Kirkby Green Light Railway JonesB 1982 "10¼"" - Tram Engine"

 

To add to the list;

4w-4wDH Class 52 "Western" D1095 "Western Heritage" - Garw Valley Railway, Pontycymer. "10¼" - formerly at Barry Island.

Regards,

 

Excellent Nick
Now included. Any idea who built it & when?
Cheers
Steve

 

Given that the Bolebroke Castle and Lakes Railway is entirely 7 1/4" gauge, I'm not sure that any of their rolling stock ought to be in this list...

On the other hand, there is a 10 1/4" gauge Royal Scot that resides at the Statfold Barn Railway, in their museum. Not sure if its a Bassett Lowke or not, but I'll find out and let you know.

John

 

I think there may now also be a second steam loco at Newby Hall and anybody know what happened to the rather splended Nord 4-6-2 that was at Stapleford for a few years. I think it was a 90's built Colby.

 

Thanks for all the replies. It was actually drawings i was after as a part of the effort to re launch the 10.25 inch gauge railway society. See the separate thread and the website http://www.ten-and-a-quarter-railway-society.co.uk/ .
We want to help people to build railways and rolling stock. However its much easier if you are following a drawing than starting from scratch. There is a very good list of extant miniature locomotives and their locations on the Yahoo miniature railway group. It covers other gauges as well.

Mike Hanson
www.rlsr.org

 

oops, you are correct John.
Now amended.
I may join the miniature Yahoo group. I hope they won't mind me asking lots of questions!
Cheers
Steve

 

It was built by a member (Mr R Underwood) circa 1996? Prior to being at Barry Island, the line was located at the (sadly missed) Welsh Industrial and Maritime Museum at Cardiff Docks.

 

Maxitrak are re rerealising all of the Henry Greenly archive drawings, these include a set of drawings for the 10 1/4" Royal Scot - it would be nice if someone could persuade them into doing the castings as well!

 

The Wells and Walsingham Railway who run a 10 1/4 Beyer-Garratt is well worth a visit, 4 miles of ex standard gauge line in lovely countryside! Super power on 10 1/4.

Here's the linky
http://www.wellswalsinghamrailway.co.uk/newsletter.php

 

The W&W is rather good, facilities are limited but its not over developed.
A new engine is on the way soon

 

It's a lovely little line well worth a visit. A friend Commander (RN RTD) Roy Francics owns it. Norfolk Hero really pounds the steep gradients, you can really hear that beasty working.

 

On a personal note: I would love to know what the Stapleford Berkshires and Niagra would do out on the W&W

 

Certainly an interesting idea Owen, I wonder how they would manage, would be interesting to see how they would cope?

The Beyer-Garratt is by no means at full stretch with a full load on the W&W, you can her working of course on the lines steep gradients one of which if I remember correctly is 1 in 42 and 1 in 38 at one point due to subsidence over the many years the line past since the line was originally built as a standard gauge holiday line. The loco is no means stretched, the loco has plenty of power in reserve and jogs along very nicely.

If anyone can get to that part of the world, the line is well worth a visit and worth getting a ticket to ride. A hidden and little known gem on the Norfolk coast, most enthusiasts pass by it on the main coastal road without a second glance, little do they know what a great little railway they are missing.

 

Don't forget that Joe Nemeth has just completed a 14xx to his own design for Bob Symes. At the start of the project he indicated that these drawings and castings and boiler design would be available to anyone else interested.

His website and newly completed 14xx can be found here. http://www.joenemethengineeringltd.com/

Hope this helps

Paul

 

... also visit the Wells Harbour line, same gauge. To finish off, sit on the quay eating fish n chips bought from the adjacent chip shop. Bliss.