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The Flying Scotsman Livery Poll

Rasprava u 'Steam Traction' pokrenuta od Sheff, 1. Siječanj 2011..

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In what guise should Flying Scotsman run on the main line?

  1. Single chimney, no deflectors, LNER apple green

    76 glas/ova
    30.3%

  2. Single chimney, no deflectors, BR green

    6 glas/ova
    2.4%

  3. Double chimney, deflectors, LNER apple green

    30 glas/ova
    12.0%

  4. Double chimney, deflectors, BR green

    80 glas/ova
    31.9%

  5. Some other livery (please post details)

    5 glas/ova
    2.0%

  6. Don't care

    54 glas/ova
    21.5%
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  1. Sidmouth

    Sidmouth Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Moderator

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    The thing with Flying Scotsman is that unlike any other engine she is an Icon and known as 4472 and in Apple Green . Any other livery or number and to the public she means a lot less although yes it would be nice to see her in Blue or Brunswick Green

    This haul as much as possible argument I also find frustrating . Her condition was to an extent because of that . she is a delicate old lady now and has slogged her way around the world , isn't it time for a more gentle dotage ? I quite like the Vintage Trains approach . Carriage loads well within the limits for the engine . I suspect that she will command a premium fare but should she be pushed for that extra pound ?
     
    Sidmouth, 2. Siječanj 2011.
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  2. Anthony Coulls

    Anthony Coulls Well-Known Member

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    She won't be pushed hard, we won't allow that. Chris Beet is well in hand with what he intends her to pull and where, so no worries there.
     
    Anthony Coulls, 2. Siječanj 2011.
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  3. 73129

    73129 Part of the furniture

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    I think there is an issue with the poll voting system on this thread. I've been able to vote more than once.
     
    73129, 2. Siječanj 2011.
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  4. Sheff

    Sheff Resident of Nat Pres

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    That shouldn't be possible - I did not set it up for multiple voting. Nor do I see the voting buttons. Have you got multiple ID's or something? Anyone else found this happening plse?
     
    Sheff, 2. Siječanj 2011.
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  5. Sidmouth

    Sidmouth Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Moderator

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    Thanks Anthony for the clarification . Should stress no criticism or offence intended
     
    Sidmouth, 2. Siječanj 2011.
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  6. 73129

    73129 Part of the furniture

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    I only have one ID and I've have voted twice. Once when logged in to my password and again without being logged in to my password.
     
    73129, 2. Siječanj 2011.
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  7. Gav106

    Gav106 Well-Known Member

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    i have just asked my partner what colour flying scotsman is and i can gaurentee she knows nothing about trains and she has told me its a light green. so that answers what Joe public thinks
     
    Gav106, 2. Siječanj 2011.
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  8. Sheff

    Sheff Resident of Nat Pres

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    I've just replicated this myself. I see what you mean (I didn't actually vote again though). Maybe Admin can advise as to how this is possible?
     
    Sheff, 2. Siječanj 2011.
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  9. 73129

    73129 Part of the furniture

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    Maybe admin could reset the poll voting system to give us a true poll count?
     
    73129, 2. Siječanj 2011.
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  10. Sheff

    Sheff Resident of Nat Pres

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    I've reported this to the Mods for investigation.
     
    Sheff, 2. Siječanj 2011.
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  11. planetpower

    planetpower Member

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    Re-named Salmon Trout And With A GNR Tender!
     
    planetpower, 2. Siječanj 2011.
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  12. Dan Hill

    Dan Hill Part of the furniture

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    I wouldn't mind seeing 4472 with a GNR tender but if you want an authentic 1924 look its complicated. Different Valve Gear, different cab, squared bufferebeams. Mind you there is a picture with 4472 with a GNR tender (with LNER on it) taken in 1936 in the recent pocket book on the loco.
     
    Dan Hill, 3. Siječanj 2011.
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  13. IKB

    IKB Member

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    Naturally weathered iron oxide!!!
     
    IKB, 3. Siječanj 2011.
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  14. 740144

    740144 New Member

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    I would like to see 4472 with double chimney, BR green but without smoke deflectors !
    Am I alone with my singular preference ?
     
    740144, 3. Siječanj 2011.
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  15. Sheff

    Sheff Resident of Nat Pres

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    I tried the same test on Mrs S. She said it's like a Granny Smith's colour. She couldn't name a 'dark green' loco at all, but offered "Duchess of Something" when I tried red. SWMBO has spoken.
     
    Sheff, 4. Siječanj 2011.
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  16. david1984

    david1984 Resident of Nat Pres

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    The poll seems pretty conclusive to me, ie something different to the current condition is whats wanted, be it LNER Single chimney or BR with Double and Deflectors, my personal preference is for the latter but i woulden't mind the former over the current condition, given the loco is unlikely to be pushed too near the limit in NRM ownership then i'd have to say surely the extra grunt the double chimney gives is not crucial given it's unlikely to be lugging around the VSOE or taking 13 over Shap, using Castles as a comparison, 5043 will outperform 5029, but 5029 is hardley incapable of performing what's asked of it.
     
    david1984, 4. Siječanj 2011.
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  17. Neil_Scott

    Neil_Scott Part of the furniture

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    Ultramarine blue (as mentioned in some other thread) would look nice.
     
    Neil_Scott, 6. Siječanj 2011.
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  18. Sheff

    Sheff Resident of Nat Pres

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    Well that's the 200 up - not quite as fast as England, but not bad guys! Keep 'em coming, thanks to all that have voted so far :thumb:
     
    Sheff, 6. Siječanj 2011.
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  19. tomparryharry

    tomparryharry Member

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    I reckon it would look really good if;

    All-over black, with red lining where required.
    Red frames & wheels
    Those luvverly german-style smoke deflectors
    Get the air pump out on display, where it belongs.

    Whaddya mean, its not April first?

    Regards,
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    Where's my taxi???
     
    tomparryharry, 7. Siječanj 2011.
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  20. Sheff

    Sheff Resident of Nat Pres

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    Well clearly it's all over now.

    Latest SR carries a full page ad for a Corgi die-cast model of FS in ..........

    :drum:

    ....... LNER green, double chimney and smoke deflectors! Q.E.D.
     
    Sheff, 7. Siječanj 2011.
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