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Last steam locomotives built in europe built for national service or industry ?

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  1. ADB968008

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    Just a question I was wondering on...

    Excluding preservation..

    Obviously 92220 Evening Star was the last BR built steam locomotive, and wasnt a tank engine built by Hunslet in 1971 was the last Industrial built in the UK

    How about other european countries...what was their last National Network steam locomotives and last overall constructed steam locomotives ??

    DB closed the curtain with 23.105 (2-6-2) and continued with fireless locomtives well into the late 1980s..

    PKP apparently closed up in 1957 with Ty51-228, but in industry with Fireless locomotives to 1967

    TCDD was a latecomer to steam construction but was building large locomotives in 1961.

    how about France, Spain, Italy, Denmark, Czech Republic Hungary and other countries ..?
     
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    Wales - Boston Lodge built two double fairlies, and a single Fairlie, after Evening Star was built at Swindon
     
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    Construction of new steam locomotives in Italy for main line use seems to have stopped before WWII, mostly exisiting locos were modified and updated using various ideas including Crosti boilers, enhanced superheat etc.
     
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    Hunslet built a batch of 2ft guage Garretts for South Africa around 1968, at least some of which have been brought back to the UK for the WHR.

    Like the thread starter I also thought Hunslet turned out one or two industrial 0-6-0's with early 1970's builders plates, although I think they were technically rebuilds of earlier "Austerity" type engines. Didnt they have gas producer fireboxes? As an ex-Bahamas Loco Society person, I thought that WD150 Warrington ( "Royal Pioneer" at Peak Rail)was purchased as a "new" engine direct from Hunslets, but on Wikip. it is shown as built in the 1940's, so I guess my memory is playing tricks on that one. There might have been one other, placed into service at a coking plant at Chapeltown South Yorkshire? Again, someone correct me if I am wrong.

    Edit: A bit of research reveals that the last Hunslets built were 3851 in 1962, and 3889/90 in 1964, all with underfeed stokers and the gas producer system. Despite this, I am still curious about "Warrington" as mentioned above!

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    Both West and East Germany built comparatively few new steam locos after the war, no doubt in no small part due to over 10,000 locos having been built as part of the war effort. There was much rebuilding and upgrading of these and pre-War designs, in part brought about by boiler problems due to the materials used (standard thereof, not what they were!).

    Both sides of the "Curtain" built Praire Tender locos of Class 23, both developed from 2 earlier prototypes and using basically the same chassis. Both Germanys built the last of these in 1959.

    Unique Pacific test loco 18201 was "built" in the East in 1960-61, but used parts from earlier locos - see the OP avatar!

    West Germany kept steam to 1977 and East Germany I think more of less up to and even after Reunification on the Standard Gauge and never ended on Narrow Gauge.

    Much of Europe ended up with German war built locos and some countries got rid of steam faster than the UK, so there was comparatively little if any post war building.

    The French also built comparatively little after the war themselves, but did receive 1340 (well, 1323 - 17 were lost at seas while being delivered!) 2-8-2 locomotives built in America and, I believe, paid for by the US! These were a mainstay of the French steam fleet, although pre-war locos also survived until the mid-1970s. The last new build was over 20 years before withdrawal.

    Generally, despite the money that had to be invetsed to put right war damage, much of Europe "used up" the lives of their equipment far better than the British approach that something was very "yesterday" so had to be scrapped. The same still seems to be true today!

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    The last new steam locomotive built by Hunslet for industry was no 3902 of 1971, which was a 2'6" locomotive of the Brazil class (to a Kerr Stuart design) for Trangkil Sugar Mill in Java. This loco is now back in the UK, and resides at the Statfold Barn Railway, regauged to 2'. Hunslet have built a further 3 locomotives, to my knowledge, and have completed a 4th, which bear the works numbers 3903 to 3906, in recent years - 2 quarry hunslets and 2 wrens.

    On top of this are the locos built at Boston Lodge (Earl of Merioneth, David Lloyd George, Taliesin and Lyd), not to mention Tornado, and whilst only the last of these can be said to have see "national" service, the Ffestiniog locomotives are utilised for the very same things that Prince, Palmerston and Merddin Emrys have always been (possibly a bit (lot) more of the passenger traffic and a bit (lot) less of the slate, but they have all been utilised on a mixture of passenger and non-passenger work)
     
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    'Warrington' did indeed start life in 1944 as HE 3163. It was one of several Austerities that were bought back by Hunslet, totally rebuilt to 'as new' condition complete with gas producer/stoker system and given a new works no. (3885/1964 in this case). It was the last of these rebuilds and remained unsold until going straight into preservation at Dinting.
     
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    Thanks Steve, I was nearly there! A bit out with my dates though.

    Regards

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    Meiningen built 202 fireless locos between 1984 & 1988.
     
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    Trangkil No.4 was the last industrial narrow gauge steam loco built for export, the Welshpool & Llanfair's Bagnall "Monarch" of 1953 was the last industrial narrow gauge steam loco built for service in the UK.
     
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    Only 16 141.Rs (141.R.1220–1235) were lost on the MV Belpamela off Newfoundland, the sevententh missing loco 141.R.1241 was dropped at Marsaille docks (a bit like 70012!)

    http://www.warsailors.com/homefleetsingles/belpamela.html

    According to NRM librarian Philip Atkins the MV Belpamela was the same ship that took "Duchess of Hamilton" (disguised as "Coronation") to the USA in 1939 and Chinese National Railways 4-8-4 No.607 to China (both now preserved in the NRM).
     
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