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Mersey Moorlander: Every Monday in August (Compass Tours)

Rasprava u 'What's Going On' pokrenuta od acorb, 10. Siječanj 2011..

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  1. KRM47827

    KRM47827 New Member

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    Please note although the train is again heavily laden, as per the previous 4 weeks, limited space is available for Monday's train and payment on the day will be accepted for standard and first class fares. I don't anticipate any "masive rush" so shouldn't see the need to contact anyone in advance.

    One way fares (at reduced prices) between Preston and Carlisle will also be available.
     
    KRM47827, 28. Kolovoz 2011.
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  2. wcmlbls1846

    wcmlbls1846 Well-Known Member

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    45231 is working the Moorlander today, Mon 29th.

    Andrew N
     
    wcmlbls1846, 29. Kolovoz 2011.
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  3. 60017

    60017 Resident of Nat Pres Friend

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    Please don't shoot the messenger! A friend who is travelling on the train just called me from Preston to say that the set is topped and tailed by diesels. When 45231 moved out of the station to drop onto the train she sounded 'rather poorly.' There is a rumour that the diesels are staying put and the five will pilot the train to Hellified where a further decision on her condition will be made. I'll try to get a further update if it helps people to make a decision to go out or not.
     
    60017, 29. Kolovoz 2011.
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  4. 26D_M

    26D_M Part of the furniture

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    Passed Hoghton more or less on time, confirmed consist as 45231 + POB, large logo 47, train tailed by WCR 47. 45231 doing little work and blowing from both valve glands. An unusual combination. Is 45305 moving to York rather than 70013 hence the emergency use of 45231?
     

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    26D_M, 29. Kolovoz 2011.
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  5. 60017

    60017 Resident of Nat Pres Friend

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    Thanks for that - not looking good then. Last I heard was that Cromwell was having a boiler wash and brick arch attention in prep for the SSE.
     
    60017, 29. Kolovoz 2011.
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  6. RalphW

    RalphW Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Administrator Friend

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    45231 now taken off at Hellifield sounding very sick. We are continuing with diesels.
     
    RalphW, 29. Kolovoz 2011.
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  7. 60017

    60017 Resident of Nat Pres Friend

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    Sorry to hear that news Ralph. Hope the rest of the trip is without incident.
     
    60017, 29. Kolovoz 2011.
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  8. green five

    green five Resident of Nat Pres

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    Sad news about 45231. That's a very unusual operation though. What does it say in the rule book about having the support coach in such a position?
     
    green five, 29. Kolovoz 2011.
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  9. 981smithy

    981smithy Member

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    981smithy, 29. Kolovoz 2011.
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  10. green five

    green five Resident of Nat Pres

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    From the videos on Youtube it looks pretty serious. A very uneven one-sided beat from the exhaust.
     
    green five, 29. Kolovoz 2011.
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  11. RalphW

    RalphW Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Administrator Friend

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    One prognosis from the 'experts' on board is piston rings. When moving slowly there was a hugh blast of steam out of the chimney then a gentle chuff from the other cylinder.
     
    RalphW, 29. Kolovoz 2011.
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  12. phil.sez

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    phil.sez, 29. Kolovoz 2011.
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  13. Western Bulleid

    Western Bulleid Part of the furniture

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    Western Bulleid, 29. Kolovoz 2011.
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  14. garstangpost

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    garstangpost, 29. Kolovoz 2011.
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  15. daveannjon

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    45231 performed very well on the Forth Circle which we were on, on 21 August, funny thing was it was making that common Stanier sound of steam escaping from a drain cock once per revolution but no steam was visible. I believe this is often caused by broken bits of valve/piston rings getting where they shouldn't.

    Dave
     
    daveannjon, 29. Kolovoz 2011.
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  16. Fred Kerr

    Fred Kerr Resident of Nat Pres Friend

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    I travelled on the afternoon circuit from Dalmeny and - on occasion - 45231 sounded a little off-beat and had to stop south of Cowdenbeath for a blow-up after a slow run through Cowdenbeath North Junction. I presumed part of the problem was poor coal although the Bo'ness supply normally seems to be good quality coal.
     
    Fred Kerr, 29. Kolovoz 2011.
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  17. RalphW

    RalphW Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Administrator Friend

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    There were quite a few disgruntled passengers yesterday, several remarked that when she moved out of platform 7 at Preston to then come back onto the train, it was plain to hear that something was seriously not right. Why they even bothered to put her on the train at all was also asked. The 47 did all the work from the very start and 45231, judging by the exhaust, was making very little if any contribution.

    A great shame that the series had to end this way as the previous 4 had all been excellent runs, with spirited fast running in many places by both 70013 and 45305.
     
    RalphW, 30. Kolovoz 2011.
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  18. malc

    malc Part of the furniture

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    It sounds to me like the problem with 45231 was already known about at Preston and she was only attached to the train as far as Hellifield to give the passengers some token steam for the day and as a convenient way of getting her back to Carnforth.
     
    malc, 30. Kolovoz 2011.
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  19. noelist

    noelist Member

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    I have to totally agree, after seeing it arrive at Carnforth from Bo'ness on sat evening, I was amazed to see it out on monday morning.
     
    noelist, 30. Kolovoz 2011.
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  20. Dave Roderick

    Dave Roderick New Member

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    I was also on the afternoon trip from Inverkeithing, and it sounded off when the empty stock was moved into the sidings to wait for the 37 to haul the set back to Bo'ness.
     
    Dave Roderick, 30. Kolovoz 2011.
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