BR Standard class 6 No. 72010 'Hengist' and Clan Discussion Thread

No problem, apart from the current lack of money! I have raised this several times before on here (but typically forgot to contact by email to find out for myself), but I would like to know what the options are regarding supporting this project financially. Looking around at other groups, there's about three major sources of income, including:

1. If following a similar line to Southern Locomotives Ltd., then non-dividend share purchase, payable as one-off or say £25 per month direct debit.
2. Membership of the society.
3. 'Ordinary' donations.

I'd happily purchase a share by Direct Debit should they become available, as it has the twin advantages of providing 72010 with a small but steady flow of income each month, and it won't dent my shaky income too much. If this aspect can be clarified in 2012, then I'd be able to make an informed decision as to the best course to take.

 

The ordinary donations provision is and will be still there come what may, in the past this has sometimes/ sometimes not resulted in some kind of honorary membership.
For 2012 Membership of the society will likely be subject to an annual membership fee independent of other factors.

Until such time as we can call 72010 a loco. then its not 'right' to offer shares in it (?).

Highly likely that some kind of covanant/ monthly contribution scheme will be formalised though. One does n't really want to set too high a minimum on this as many contributing little but often is a good thing - 'Regular incomings' means the Council can actually plan and commission work against what funds we know will be available, anything extra is a bonus to held against the 'offers to share costs on a component' that are part and parcel of being a 'standard'

It has to be remembered that supplying newsletters etc means costs that there is a cost / member that has to be covered

Will post on here any developments and PM you at the same time .

 

Thanks for clarifying the issue.

 

Hi folks, Just need to advise that our webmaster is temporarily out of commission so we cannot update our website yet.
It is an absolute disaster for us pr -wise as we have so much to pass on to you following our AGM.
Thanks to Class8mikado for doing his bit.
Basically we are now at a state to progress the build after our review and consolidation period.
Our home decision has to wait a little bit longer as there are several unknowns to be answered, it is better to wait another couple of months or so to make the right decision than jump too soon into the wrong decision.
If you wish to contact the 'Clan Project' then please feel free to use the info@72010-hengist.org email address.
As soon as the website is updated I'll post it on here.

Thanks for all your support.

 

Our web master has been up until after midnight doing the update folks.
There are a couple of glitches but nothing to concern general viewing.
Look for yourselves; www.72010-hengist.org.
I hope this goes someway to answer our critics and doubters, future progress might answer a few more!
The intention is to maintain a regular up date in future, rather than have a glut of info and then a famine.
We are working towards the major cast frame stretchers, a long term project, well, 12 months perhaps.

Thanks for all your support.

 

Northernsteam. Thanks for getting the updates online. You have obviously put the recent crisis behind you and I wish you luck in fiinding a permanent home for the project and the further prosecution of the build.
I agree about regular updates, even if they are not always dramatic: No updates gives the impression that something is wrong..

 

Just a thought RE Hengist...if the clan is to follow on the originals but based on the order cancelled for the southern region, why not see if there is a southern region line with ample space for which to build Hengist? The Mid Hants might be a bit full to take on Hengist but if you don't ask you don't get.

 

Is your memory that short!!!

 

No it is not. It was a suggestion to approach a railway with a theme which the locomotive may share. I am well aware of what I have said previously. Please try and understand the context of what I am saying, which is very different to "put it on X railway".

 

Which railway (loco works) were the Clan group asked to leave?

 

Was it the Mid Hants? I had no idea of that. Seems we were talking at cross purposes. My apologies.

 

No, it was Herston Works at Swanage.

 

I thought it was the Swanage works that the group had been asked to leave, not Ropley.

EDIT: Posting at the same time, my apologies

You simply wouldn't get the space at Ropley though.

 

Right. So why I am being pilloried for suggesting the Mid Hants?

(Thank you Seanoc for confirming there's no space!)

 

What I am on about is this part of your original post. In view of the fact that the Clan Group was asked to leave Herston, just have a think about what you posted.

 

You are going to have to spell it out. I had no prior knowledge of them being based at Swanage. Are you suggesting they can't find anywhere in the south, or that by moving out of Swanage they must harbour bitterness towards the entire south of England? I'm getting weary of this. Speak your mind, bluntly, and stop tip toeing around any perceived issue with my original question I made.

 

It is common knowledge that the Bluebell and Mid Hants are very busy and space is limited. OK, you didn't know about the situation with Swanage, so, where else down south could the Clan project go?
Quite frankly, I think you should wait for the Clan Group to go public with where they have decided to go to construct the loco, just like the rest of us.

 

I'd assume they'd favour a location within easy reach of their key people surely?

 

Your right, there a "new group" with the board they have so its got to suite those who are now running the project. I was with them on sunday and ill b with them this thurs/fri/sat/sun at GCR gala (with the LMS Patriot stand of course) Glad to see the direction there going, i know that as soon as they decide on the location (of the offers they have received) it will be the one that will most benefit the project. When you visit the website you do see how much stuff they have and as soon as it can be put together and resemble a loco shape it will grow from strength to strength. Hopefully on the mainline winkwink. As your also now changing your membership to be a one off member with out monthly donations i think ill join.

 

Exactly that Sheff.

I love the idea that The Mid Hants, Swanage and Bluebell are somehow the only places worth building a locomotive in the south of England. There are plenty of railways, one of which I am sure, would have some sort of room for them. The simple question is where would they like to be based?

I am sure there are plenty of spaces for sale/lease that are suitable, railway connected or not.

Mr Martin, your question was very valid I am unsure as to why you're being given such a short and frankly condescending reaction from it.