The Swanage Belle - 15th October 2011

As no thread appears to have been started yet:
http://www.railwaytouring.net/uk-day-trips/the-swanage-belle
Presumably too early to tell which loco is likely to haul it.
Suspect it will have to have a WCRC diesel on the back as usual - to haul the whole train back to Southampton area. (Too little time to split loco and tender for turning on Swanage's 50ft turntable in readiness for the return journey.)

 

I think 777 is unlikely, since she's now back at Loughborough and being advertised for their gala the weekend before this trip. As buzby2 suggests, most likely Tangmere on the down trip with DL at rear, diesel back up as far as Southampton, then Tangmere leading via Romsey and Andover. This scheme has worked well a number of times during the last 2 years.

 

I see from my just received info that this now starts at Euston and terminates at Kensington O on return. Looks like a bail out at Woking. Booked two hours from there back to KO.

 

Euston - Swanage! Now that has to be a first.

Or is it?

 

Also 70013 on the London- Swanage leg according to RTC.

 

Does anyone have any timings for this tour yet?

 

http://www.uksteam.info/tours/trs11.htm#twk
http://www.railwaytouring.net/uk-day-trips/the-swanage-belle
both showing 70013 Down and 34067 return.
Swanage Railway's timings just issued: 1412 arrival and 1605 departure.

 

Just time for a pint!

 

This is from the RTC website:

[TABLE="class: train-schedule, width: 1"]
[TR]
[/TR]
[TR="class: row odd"]
[TD="class: station"]London Euston[/TD]
[TD="class: depart"]08:32[/TD]
[TD="class: return"]22:00 Kensington (Olympia)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: row even"]
[TD="class: station"]Staines[/TD]
[TD="class: depart"]09:26[/TD]
[TD="class: return"]20:37[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: row odd"]
[TD="class: station"]Woking[/TD]
[TD="class: depart"]10:06[/TD]
[TD="class: return"]20:03[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: row even"]
[TD="class: station"]Basingstoke[/TD]
[TD="class: depart"]10:49[/TD]
[TD="class: return"]19:27[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: row odd"]
[TD="class: station"]Swanage[/TD]
[TD="class: depart"]14:05 (Arrive)[/TD]
[TD="class: return"]16:20 (Depart)[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

 

I supose the trip out from London Euston must be via South Acton, Kew East Junction and Hounslow. Or is there another way it can go?

 

Interesting. My "normally reliable sources" suggest that Tangmere will arrive at Motala (the NR/Swanage Rly boundary?) at 16:10 having turned at Eastleigh 13:00 - 14:30. They tell me that the up train should depart Motala 17:05, Bournemouth 17:48-50, water at Eastleigh 18:36-47, Basingstoke 19:27-31 and the rest as shown above. I'm no expert in Swanage Railway operation, but 16:10 at Motala is clearly too late for the light engine to get to Swanage for a 16:20 departure. Will the tour train will be worked from Swanage to Norden by another loco? Will Tangmere be able to arrive earlier? How does this fit around the normal SR service (There's a special timetable for the day at the bottom of the SR timetables web-page)?

 

Mark, all those times you give are correct.
Only snag is Tangmere's light run from Eastleigh to Motala is on Friday

 

"TAN Times"
copied & pasted from SE Gen Yahoo group
Saturday 15 October 2011

The Swanage Belle

All related timings wcr2112c Final issued 12 Oct 11

Friday 14 October 2011

5Z91 FO SOUTHALL WCR - EASTLEIGH EAST YARD

Southall WCR 10.30
Southall GL 10/40
Southall West Jn ML 10/41
Heathrow Airport Jn ML 10/44
Dolphin Jn RL 10/50
Slough Plat 4 RL 10/52
Maidenhead Plat 3 RL 10/59 (1)
Twyford RL 11/09 (1)
Kennet Bridge Loop RL 11OP16 11OP59
Reading Plat 4 12/01
Southcote Jn 12/06
Bramley (Hants) Plat 2 12/16
Basingstoke Plat 2 SL 12/23
Worting Jn 12/27 (1)
Winchester Plat 2 12/45
Shawford Jn SL 12/48
Allbrook RCL 12/54
Eastleigh East Yard 13.00

Operated by West Coast Railways
Stock: 1 DB vehicle (POB only; 35 tonnes)
Steam hauled by WC Class locomotive 34067 (98767)
Timed to a maximum speed of 60 mph except where the restrictions on the attached Authority apply

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0Z91 FO EASTLEIGH EAST YARD - EASTLEIGH EAST YARD

Eastleigh East Yard 13.18
Eastleigh Plat 2 13/21
Eastleigh South Jn 13/23
Eastleigh Trsmd 13:28 13:31
Eastleigh Plat 2 13/36
Eastleigh East Yard 13.40

Operated by West Coast Railways
Steam locomotive turn move, loco 34067

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5Z92 FO EASTLEIGH EAST YARD - SWANAGE RAILWAY MOTALA GF

Eastleigh East Yard 14.30
Eastleigh Plat 2 14/34 (4)
St Denys Plat 2 SL 14/43
Northam Jn 14/46 (4)
Southampton Central Plat 4 FL 14/53
Redbridge Plat 2 14/58
Brockenhurst Plat 3 15/11
Bournemouth Plat 3 15C30 15C32
Branksome Plat 2 15/40
Poole Plat 2 15/46 (2)
Wareham Plat 2 15/56
Worgret Jn 15OP57 16OP00
Swanage Railway Motala GF 16.10

Stock: 1 DB vehicle (POB only; 35 tonnes)
Steam hauled by WC Class locomotive 34067 (98767) tender first
Timed to a maximum speed of 45 mph except where the restrictions on the attached Authority apply

================================================================

Saturday 15 October 2011

5Z93 SO SOUTHALL WCR - LONDON EUSTON

Southall WCR 06.45
Southall GL 06OP55 07OP04
Southall East Jn RL 07/05 (1)
West Ealing RL 07/08
Acton West GL 07/13 (2)
Acton Main Line 07/18
Acton Wells Jn 07/21
Willesden S.W.S. 07/23
Willesden West Londn Jn FL 07/24
Camden Jn D 07/28
Camden South Jn D 07/29
London Euston Plat 16 07.33

Operated by West Coast Railways
Stock: 10 DB vehicles plus POB (385 tonnes)
Diesel hauled by Class 47 locomotive; steam locomotive 70013 (98713) marshalled at rear, tender first

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1Z93 SO LONDON EUSTON - SWANAGE RAILWAY MOTALA GF

London Euston Plat 16 E 08.32
Camden South Jn E 08/36
Camden Jn FL 08/38
Willesden West Londn Jn 08/44 (8)
Willesden S.W.S. 08/53
Acton Wells Jn 08/55 (2)
South Acton Jn 09/00 (1)
Kew East Jn 09/03
Brentford Plat 2 09/06 (2)
Hounslow Plat 2 09/13
Feltham Jn 09/15
Feltham Plat 2 09/17
Staines Plat 2 09.24 09.26 (3)
Virginia Water Plat 4 09/38 (2)
Addlestone Jn 09/48 (4)
Byfleet & New Haw SL 09/55 (3)
Woking Plat 5 SL 10.04 10.06
Woking Jn SL 10/07
Pirbright Jn SL 10/13
Farnborough (Main) Plat 2 SL 10/17
Fleet Plat 2 SL 10/21
Winchfield SL 10.26 10.41 W
Basingstoke Plat 2 FL 10:51 10:54 U
Worting Jn 10/59 (1)
Wallers Ash Loop DPL 11.10 11.30 A
Winchester Plat 2 11/35
Shawford Jn FL 11/38
Eastleigh 11/43
St Denys Plat 2 FL 11/47 (2)
Northam Jn 11/50
Southampton Central Plat 4 11.53 11.55 C
Redbridge 12/02 (5)
Brockenhurst Plat 3 12/20 (10)
Bournemouth Plat 3 12:46 12:50 D
Branksome Plat 2 12/55
Poole Plat 2 12/59
Wareham Plat 2 13:09 13:11 C
Worgret Jn 13:13 13:14 TW
Swanage Railway Motala GF 13.30

Operated by West Coast Railways
Stock: 10 DB vehicles plus POB (385 tonnes)
Steam hauled by BR Standard Class locomotive 70013 (98713)
Timed to a maximum speed of 75 mph except where the restrictions on the attached Authority apply

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0Z93 SO 08.53 LONDON EUSTON - WILLESDEN T.M.D

London Euston Plat 16 E 08.53
Camden South Jn E 08/56
Camden Jn FL 08/57
Willesden West Londn Jn DR 09/03 (2)
Willesden No7 DR 09/07 (8)
Wembley Yard South Jn. 09/16 (5)
Willesden Former WN34sig UR 09RM24 09RM27
Willesden Sudbury Jn 09/29
Harlesden Jn 09/35
Willesden T.M.D 09.40

Operated by West Coast Railways
Class 47 diesel locomotive

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1Z94 SO SWANAGE RAILWAY MOTALA GF - KENSINGTON (OLYMPIA

Swanage Railway Motala GF 17.05
Worgret Jn 17/13
Wareham Plat 1 17.16 17.18 (5)
Poole Plat 1 17/31
Branksome Plat 1 17/38 (5)
Bournemouth Plat 2 17.48 17.50
Brockenhurst Plat 2 18/08 (1)
Redbridge Plat 1 FL 18/21
Southampton Central Plat 1 18/25½
Northam Jn FL 18/28
St Denys Plat 1 18/30
Eastleigh Plat 1 SL 18.36 18.47 W
Shawford Plat 1 18/54 (1)
Winchester Plat 1 19/00
Wallers Ash Loop 19.06 19.14
Worting Jn SL 19/24
Basingstoke Plat 4 SL 19:28 19:31 (2)
Fleet Plat 1 SL 19/44 (1)
Farnborough (Main) Plat 1 SL 19/49 (2)
Pirbright Jn SL 19/55 (1)
Woking Jn SL 20/02
Woking Plat 1 SL 20.03 20.07 (1)
Byfleet & New Haw SL 20/14
Addlestone Jn 20/16
Virginia Water Plat 3 20/26
Staines Plat 1 20.37 20.40
Feltham Plat 1 20/48
Feltham Jn 20/50 (1)
Hounslow Plat 1 20/54 (1)
Brentford Plat 1 20/59
Kew East Jn 21/02 (5)
South Acton Jn 21/10 (2)
Acton Wells Jn 21/17
Willesden S.W.S. 21.20 21.52
Mitre Bridge Jn 21/54
North Pole Jn 21/56
Kensington (Olympia) Plat 2 22.00

Operated by West Coast Railways
Stock: 10 DB vehicles plus POB (385 tonnes)
Steam hauled by WC Class locomotive 34067 (98767)
Timed to a maximum speed of 75 mph except where the restrictions on the attached Authority apply
On arrival at Willesden SWS diesel locomotive to attach to rear; Willesden SWS to Kensington O top and tailed

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0Z94 SO WILLESDEN T.M.D - WILLESDEN S.W.S.

Willesden T.M.D Down 20.30
Harlesden Jn HL 20/35
Willesden Sudbury Jn Dn DR 20/41
Wembley Signal 829/931 UWR 20OP44 20OP49
Wembley Yard South Jn. Up UR 20/51
Willesden No7 UWR UR 20/53
Willesden West Londn Jn Up 20/56
Mitre Bridge Jn Up 20/58
North Pole Jn UWL 20/59 (1)
Kensington (Olympia) Plat 2 21OP03 21OP07 (2)
North Pole Jn DWL 21/12
Mitre Bridge Jn Down 21/13
Willesden S.W.S. SWT 21.15

Operated by West Coast Railways
Class 47 diesel locomotive

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5Z94 SO 22.06 KENSINGTON (OLYMPIA) - SOUTHALL WCR

Kensington (Olympia) Plat 2 22.06
North Pole Jn 22/12
Mitre Bridge Jn REV 22/13
Willesden S.W.S. 22/17 (2)
Acton Wells Jn 22/21
Acton Main Line GL 22/23
Acton West RL 22/27 (8)
Southall East Jn GL 22/39
Southall 22OP40 22OP50
Southall WCR 23.00

Operated by West Coast Railways
Stock: 10 DB vehicles plus POB (385 tonnes)
Diesel hauled by Class 47 locomotive; steam locomotive 34067 (98767) marshalled at rear, tender first

 

Oops! That would explain it....

 

Is there likely to be a diesel at the rear of the train? I see no reason for it but you never know. <BJ>

 

I think (according to the times above) the diesel stays at Euston until 08:53

 

Swanage Railway has been told to be ready for Loco+Support Coach+10 coaches [i.e. No diesel at rear].
34067 Tangmere arrived safely on SR metals just after 1600 today, running tender first, hauling its support coach. Have no idea when 70013 Oliver Cromwell will leave Swanage however.

 

Probably for it's Westbury to Plymouth tour with 6024 on 22nd October. <BJ>

 

Obviously hoping it wouldn't be, but there's a very nice main line diesel at Swanage anyway if arrangements were needed.

 

70013 was looking and sounding good as she pulled away from Winchfield a little late this morning. We were at Pot Bridge and you could hear 70013 working hard from the water stop. Lovely sound!