The Christmas White Rose 10th Dec

Any suggestions on what may replace 60007 on the above tour, I can't decide whether to book or not? Also, its been a few years since I've done a tour but is the stock likely to be turned at York or will std class be at the back, out and return?
Thanks
Steve

 

70013 is a possibility,since it is hauling the Steam Dreams trip from Cambridge to Oxford 2 days earlier.

 

Depends on the stock, air or vac braked. 70013 is not air fitted.

 

Good thinking, its also hauling a Kings Lynn - KX the following day, and a Norwich - York the following week, looks like 70013 is having a mini homecoming! Where would she be based for the duration of these runs? If it does turn out to be 70013 I shall definitely be booking!

 

Done it the last 2 or 3 years. Stock hasn't been turned on those occasions

 

Spoke to RTC this morning and they say it will be 4492 DoNZ on this train, I'd almost got my hopes up for a bit of OC!
Regards
Steve

 

Just seen the timings for this tour. I'm sure there is a logical reason but Bittern comes off at Peterborough and runs to Southall while a diesel takes us back to Cambridge arriving back at Southall only 40 minutes after Bittern. Any ideas why this might happen?

Also its a very early start. It was advertised as half 8 but is now just after half 6. Non enthusiasts may be put off by this a bit!

 

Could it be to save another water stop and therefore an arrival probably an hour or more later ? a light engine can go further without water so maybe missing out a stop on the way back to Southall.

I think at the moment with ECML Steam it's best to be prudent than push your luck too.

 

I was thinking that this is a repeat itinerary of the past few years but thinking about it, it isn't as normally loco and stock head off to somewhere near Ely for servicing then run the Christmas Fenman the next day which this year isnt running so everything is going back to Southall

 

Post on NRM Twitter feed says "No. 70013 Oliver Cromwell will be visiting our North Yard at around midday on Saturday 10 December, and leaving around 17:30...". 60019 not back from Eastleigh in time?

 

Spoke to member of Ollie's support crew. Cromwell staying at the beet factory near Ely until 4.30 saturday and then doing this run.

 

And the support crew were doing a fine job as it left Peterborough more or less on time.
70013 Oliver Cromwell on the Christmas White Rose 10-12-2011 - YouTube

John

 

70013 at Burn, North Yorks.

 

'The Christmas White Rose' hauled by BR 7MT No.70013 'Oliver Cromwell' seen near Copmanthorpe Woods.

Video Available Here

 

A very impressive burst and stirring whistle past Colton junction mid-day approx on time. Here is one of my little 'snaps' from amongst the Colton crowd.

= 70013 on the Christmas White Rose Colton 10.12.2011 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

 

The re-start from Carlton loop north of Newark taken from the foot crossing at Sutton on Trent

The White Rose BR Standard 70013 Oliver Cromwell | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Flickr: FlyingScotsman4472's Photostream

 

Thank you Ralph - its only a Digital Compact but the burst setting has caught it.
Kept the vidcam in the pocket due to all the cars passing.
Estimate around 60 people at the location.

 

Nice glint off the paintwork Stuart

 

Thanks David, got some luck with the sun for a change.