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New Build Claud Hamilton

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by Lady Hamilton 8783, Mar 24, 2011.

  1. dman-lewis

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    Would be nice to see it charging its way to cromer and onwards.
     
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    The group is now working with another newbuild group (more details soon) to source a suitable pattern for our bogie wheels, which we hope to cast next year providing we can raise the money to pay for this... Please visit Claud Hamilton Locomotive Group
     
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    The Get Our Wheels Turning Appeal has been launched, the chairsmans annual report 2011 is also available to view on our website.

    The latest issue of Australian Rails features two page article on the project
     
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    We are now able to sell both Key rings and Greetings Cards on our website. All proceeds go to 8783.

    Coming soon is a promotional video for the project.
     
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    Mugs are available on our website to pre order for collection from our stand during the North Norfolk Steam Gala on the 9th, 10th and 11th of March. After this date they will be on general sale via the website and on our sales stands. Please see Claud Hamilton Locomotive Group to pre order yours!

    Membership will be available from 1st February and will include a welcome gift and other benifits. Please see http://www.claudhamiltonlocomotivegroup.co.uk/#!join-us for more details.
    Chris
     
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  7. 45407&44871

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    I must say (though I'm scared I might get rocks pelted at me)
    I do have an urge for this group to get ahead and if and when I have a bit of spare money, I would love to donate to the group. The people in it obviously have a clear aim and they will stick to it. There appeal aims are very clear and the project on a whole looks a lot more thought out then the J39 project.
    Good luck to you fellas and I better duck before I get hit! :behindsofa:
    Thanks
    Matt
     
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    45407&44871, I think you have a valid point and I'm not going to throw anything except support. The local paper includes thie following: "Mr Aldridge said they were looking into the possibility of using the engine on the mainline but the cost needed to be assessed. The former Sprowston Community High School pupil, who has just finished a business course at City College Norwich, said: “It seems quite far away as there’s not something physical in front of us – there’s a lot to set up first. We are ready to do the wheels once we get the drawings.”"
    Local people get fed up reading about young people causing vandalism and binge-drinking but the people of Sprowston have just read something positive about their young people in their local paper. If I was building a "Claud" I would be doing my best to bring the good people of Sprowston on board, together with City College and Sprowston Community High School. Organisations, especially local schools, colleges etc, like being associated with success and I am getting the feeling that this may be successful if handeled properly. Forgive me if you guys are all over this already but building links locally could give you even more kudos, especially as the subject of your new-build is a relatively popular one (why, I believe, when first built, Clauds had copper-capped chimneys!).
     
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    What an excellent read !! It just goes to show you what young people can do. I also agree with the comments below, I'll be doing nothing except supporting this project. I really hope this comes off as I'd love to see a Claud.
     
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    Have I missed something? They haven't actually done anything yet!

    These new groups (Claud/J39/L1) seem more obsessed with facebook pages, setting up websites and visitor numbers. They should be concentrating on getting proper legal structures in place (would you really donate a load of cash to a group without any protection on what it would be spent on?), then publicising and raising money, and finally, actually cutting steel. They have been repeatedly told to spell check/rewrite their websites as they currently give a very bad impression of their groups, but yet they do nothing (despite telling us that they're listening to feedback). People have asked where their prices for frames etc have come from - no answer. They have said they won't campaign for money until they have proper quotes, but yet there are appeals for money on both the J39 and Claud websites!

    Advice has been given but it is obviously not being listened to, which is unfortunate as these groups could tarnish the reputation of the preservation industry and prejudice any future (and indeed current) new build fund raising attempts.


    Keith
     
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    Though forgive me if I'm wrong, but would you have been willing and enterprising to try and build a steam locomotive for future generations when you were that old ???? Also I'm sure you watch the news about young people out bing drinking and teenage parents etc. it's the sensible people in this article that show what young people can do if they are willing to do so. I also did not realise that this was a J39 or L1 thread. It seems to me that people are branding all of the projects together when they are different entities, and in my opinion the Claud is the only one that is realisticly going to succeed. You also say about tarnishing the reputation of preservation, but if it weren't for youngsters getting into preservation and steam loco's etc. then preservation won't be around much longer.
     
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    Please stop judging us on the merits of projects that are totally unrelated. The only relation to the J39 that the Claud Hamilton Locomotive Group is a single member, nothing more. The L1 is a J39 breakaway group and shares no relationship with the Claud Hamilton Locomotive Group at all.

    Sorry, but we are not the J39 or L1! And setting up facebook groups/websites is a really good way to get publicity. Many preserved railways in my opinion could do with better websites and facebook pages.

    Spell checking is something we do do often. People make mistakes with spelling.

    Again, lumping us in with the J39 is totally unfair! We are appealing for the bogie wheels, which will become one of the first parts to be made. No one has asked us about prices at all and if they ever did we will answer them. We have never stated we wont campaign for funding until we have proper quotes. There is also a general pay pal button. We accept that things will be slow at the moment as people wont trust us until we become a charity. The only problem is, this is a long, difficult and expensive route to go down and we will need to have some income first. We are planning to run stands on various railways throughout the year starting with the North Norfolk Railways Spring Steam Gala on the 9th, 10th and 11th of March where we will be selling our range of merchandise and other secondhand goods including magazines and model railway items.
     
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    Keith, You seem to be completely mixed up here. The claud hamilton group (as stated below) has no relation whatsoever with the failing J39 and L1 group. The claud group has got some straight headed indivisuals who have an ambition and have the skills to kick the project off the ground! I haven't seen any predictions of money in this group and only valid information. Yes the website has been worked on alot. But the thing is, indivisuals like yourself moan when websites arn't updated enough! So they are basically stuck with that part with you.

    I'm sorry but I think you are being highly unfair tagging this group with the J39/L1 group seeing as this group is getting ideas out there and working hard on those ideas!
    Matt
     
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    I sometimes wonder if it would be worth the members of the J39 & now L1 groups putting there plans on ice for a couple for a couple of years and getting behind the Claud group again. Concentration of effort and all that.
    IMHO the Claud is a more attractive engine and more likely to gain wider support outside of the preservation movement which could be crucial for the plan to be realised.
     
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    Couldn't agree with you more, I've been observing the threads for the Claud, J39 and L1 for a while now, and it would appear that most people are being unfairly critical, when they've barely started yet!

    Now I can't say much for the J39 and L1 groups, as I don't really know much about them, but I certainly believe that the Claud Hamilton project could succeed, they've got the determination and enthusiasm for it, that's for sure.

    An excellent idea, seems to me that we've got a large group of young individuals, who'd very much like to build a new engine. But three separate new build groups just seem to much if you ask me. I therefore believe that they should consider following your suggestion, and get together, to concentrate on the one, the one being the Claud as that's the one that will probably attract the most attention and interest.

    Don't get me wrong though, I'm not saying they should abandon their goals for a J39 & L1, just prioritise on one first, then move on to the next. In fact I believe a good idea would be for the groups to get together, and form a sort of "New LNER Steam Trust". They can concentrate their resources, gain skills and experience, get the one engine built, then build one of the others. As the old saying goes: we're stronger together then divided. That to my mind, is probably the best way for them to all succeed. Although I'll admit that my money's on the Claud... Rise from the ashes Phoenix, rise...!
     
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    Rome wasn't built in a day and nor will a new Claude Hamilton be, but to be fair I don't think anyone expects that, least of all the team involved. The great thing about a young team is that they can take the long view and may even choose to spearhead more than one new-build in their lifetimes (though preferably sequentially). If you were to ask me which loco I would build tomorrow, if I won the lottery, it would be a Claude (if it was Euromillions I'd build a new M&GN no 50 too, to go with the original boiler but now I really am digressing) so I really hope that this project succeeds. I'm studying at the moment (mature student), but with a bit of luck (and a lot of hard work) the project may be ready to take and use regular monthly donations against a credible engineering project plan by the time I am back to earning some 'spare' cash, in which case that is what'll happen. I agree that it'd be a lot easier to find the mentors and backers needed if the J39 and L1 guys through their weight behind the Claude. I understand that the J39 team have personal reasons for wanting to build that loco but getting one project off the ground successfully and generating the momentum to ensure success would do wonders for the credibility of all concerned and make future projects much more viable.
     
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    Good interview on BBC Norwich .Good luck with building the locomotive.

    Keith
     
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    Agreed. They came across well. It would be wonderful to see the city of Norwich get behind the project.
     
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    Its been a long time since an update has happened on this site via the Claud, something that I would like to change.

    Some of you may have heard the news and developments that have been on the facebook page, website and 'newbuildsteam' website. But I will still fill everyone in.

    Since the summer things have been looking up, We have become part of the Whitwell and Reepham Railway which enables us to be a registered charity and have a place to locate the build. People can now donate via the forms on the website only currently, all funds are restricted to the Claud Build. Membership setup is still ongoing.
    We have new board members who are enthusiastic and will bring different qualities to the team.

    Thanks

    Dan
    Spokesperson for the Claud Board
     

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