The Great Britain V - 2012

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The northbound train is using the regular charter path. However, outhbound, there is a passenger train, followed by a freight (aluminium) and then the sleeper, which runs 50mins earlier on a Sunday. All these are regular timetabled trains.

Do the sums and you'll see there isn't much choice.

JS

 

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Hi Martin
Berwick loop north of Border bridge as normally engine cuts off on the bridge and drifts into station then loop.
Gresley did do a bit off the bridge last year
Henry

 

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Berwick loop is north of the station

Electrified Glasgow to Ayr - previous charters have worked smokebox south

James - noted so far as operations go, but it doesn't change the situation as far as getting something to eat on arrival goes - Fort William will have closed up at that time so its hotel overtime or nothing - OK for full dining - but a problem for everyone else. I trust the Monday morning timing is a leisurely one.

 

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Do we know what shall be joining Kinlet Hall on the Last day of the tour or is that still being worked out.

 

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Maybe put in a Tesco stop during the day so that people can stock up with some grub to eat at the end of the day. The Great Britain is becoming a national institution and these practical difficulties are there to be overcome!

 

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Or indulge in a little self help...............

On the West Highlander in 2010, given the 05.00 out of bed, we had a second breakfast booked in advance at the Crianlarich Hotel whilst others dozed or ambled around the village whilst we took water over around an hour and a quarter - it was about four hours after we had last eaten - and very good it was too! The Crianlarich stop is nicely timed to co-incide with High Tea.

I don't know anything about the Moor of Rannoch Hotel - but this smells like an opportunity to make a killing for them. I'm sure that if ND gives them a ring and asks for a price to cater of about 150 (probable non diner contingent) he'll get a very marketable quote. 01882 633238 email bookings@moorofrannoch.co.uk

 

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We have arranged for non dining Customers to be offered Dinner at extra cost due to the late arrival into Fort William

We have also ased GBRF if they could retime this freight. so as to allow a much earlier arrival
We are still awaiting a reply
There is nothing more we can do

Nigel

 

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As Nigel says, I can only ask for a re-time of the aluminium (which I have) but GBRf are under no obligation to give it; the position would be the same, regardless of operator (or promoter). You are right - it is a shame that some imaginative plans do not always translate into workable plans but that is nature of the beast, as Uncle Frank always reminds you!

JS

 

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James, Nigel,

Your inputs are welcome and I'm sure will put the minds of those who are most important, who happen to be reading the forum, at rest.

All We have been presented with actual facts, from those doing the job at hand, please respect that.

 

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I get it.. Frank is really a Hobbit.!
They normal do second breakfast.

:hungry:

 

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I didn't know that James Shuttleworth and T Bird Frank were related.Perhaps that explains some of the answers we get.

 

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Gollum or Galadriel???

- and the late dinner is a welcome and worthwhile gesture for the non diners - but if I were on board and circumstances remain as they are, it would be dinner at Rannoch, and an Aperitif at the Grog.

I presume the Mallaig the following day will run to "early" Jacobite times - so no silly o' clock after a few Isle of Skyes!

 

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Outline times for each day [except day 9] now on the RTC GBV website.

 

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Interesting. Given GWR4090's comments above, I wonder if those really are the final final-times, now?

I've spotted one small typo - I think the departure time from Edinburgh for train one, day two should be the same as for train two, day two and not the same as the Kings X time on day one.

8:15 from Bristol on Day 8 means GBV should be about an hour ahead of the Earl, by my reckonning.

 

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Not quite. 10.49 off Bristol for 5043. GBV will be passing Dawlish by then!

 

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So that comparisons can be made, here are the initial timings for the VT train. Thanks to Charles Woodland. <BJ>

1Z71 0650 Tyseley to Plymouth

Bristol Temple Meads 1049 3 DM
Bridgwater pass 1125
Taunton pass 1137 3
Tiverton Loop 1155 1220 1
Exeter St Davids pass 1236 4
Dawlish Warren 1248 1257 1
Newton Abbot pass 1309 2
Totnes pass 1323
Plymouth 1358 8

1Z72 1640 Plymouth to Tyseley

Plymouth 1640 8
Totnes pass 1713
Newton Abbot pass 1727 3
Dawlish Warren pass 1739
Exeter St Davids 1750 1810 6
Taunton 1846 1858 4
Bristol Temple Meads 1946

 

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It's a shame if the train has been diverted off of Beattock. This according to UK Steam.
RYTC's website still says Beattock is in the program though.

 

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All timings i've seen would suggest GSW,Beattock isn't really that brilliant southbound anyway? Mauchline-Polqhuap (or however you spell it) should be good.