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Baldwin "Lyn" new build.

Discussion in 'Narrow Gauge Railways' started by Meiriongwril, Jan 25, 2009.

  1. MartinBall

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    Quote from the Club's chairman re boiler etc:
    "The decision to order Lyn’s boiler at the right time was made early on. We have a quote and delivery period. Frankly there is little point in having a boiler sitting around gathering rust until it’s required. "

    C'mon folks - now's the time to sponsor some parts!
     
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    Oh look someone has got some really valid comments!!!

    I can see this man has some sense, and puts valid observation, probably he has done some loco restoration in his time.

    Good show that man
     
  3. MartinBall

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    Nice to see the piece on both Lyd and Lyn in the current Steam Railway magazine (374).
     
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    Sooner or later the project needs to cut metal not wood, until that happens, I think most people will not believe its actually happening, or a reality. Lots of talking about it and writing articles will not build a Baldwin there is some expensive pattern work in there and a lot of castings. If the cylnders were in pattern and cast and being machined the chassis parts comming together, yes you might have started the build .

    With the best will in the world its probably a 2 year construction and that's if all the funds were availible, with a build location that was secure and accessable, all the pattern work was scheduled and there was someone with yankee errection background who could manage the errection and build it to completion.If the organisation proposing is going to contract all that responsibility out its going to be an expensive build.

    Its a big commitment.
     
  5. MartinBall

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    I wondered how long it would be before Mr Richards posted more of his negative views. It's amazing that any new builds from Tornado to Corris's Tattoo ever got built without his valuable input.
     
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    On the contrary I do not think Mr Richards is being negative but simply realistic.

    Relatively early in the Tornado project tender frames were acquired and loco frames cut. Similarly, with the Corris Tattoo project parts for the rolling chassis were being produced early in the project's lifetime. Closer to home, the first components produced for the Lyd project were the (cast) cylinders and frames - which were the first to be produced in order to demonstrate to potential investors that the project was a serious one.

    On the other hand, the Lyn project has produced so far, in 1/3 of the time in which it is proposed to build the locomotive, a nameplate, wheel patterns and a contract to build the cab. One of the major selling points which is being pushed for Lyn is that it will be completed by 2012 (or before); whilst still attainable, there needs to be major progress in the next 12 months for this to happen, i.e. this time next year there should be, at least, a rolling chassis. Hopefully this will prove the case and we will be well on the way to seeing Lyn back on the L&B.

    Charlie
     
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    A slight change in tack from the recent postings, but I don't suppose there is a chance that Lyn's cylinders are the same size as the "new build" Baldwyn's that Tony Hills is building at Brecon??

    If so, he has the patterns already, and very nice they looked too, if he is open to selling some castings of course.

    R.
     
  8. MartinBall

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    Quote from the Club's chairman re boiler etc:
    "The decision to order Lyn’s boiler at the right time was made early on. We have a quote and delivery period. Frankly there is little point in having a boiler sitting around gathering rust until it’s required. "
    The same is true of the frames. One doesn't have to follow the route of other new builds - there's more than one way to produce a new build!
     
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  9. There may be more than one route to new builds but ordering a boiler is vital but it wont rust or deterioate if its stored correctly as for the frames You need somewhere to hang everything off or to try and fit things! on locos the boiler and the frames are the structure especially on american designs.
     
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    I don't know what size Tony's are, but LYN's cylinders are 10in by 16in (254 mm by 406 mm). It is certainly worth checking out - thanks!
     
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    Pictures of the boiler construction now available on the 762 club website.
     
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    looking good on the 762 front. Quick queston any idea roughly when lyn will be finished? I ask because I understand that the L&B have bought an unrestored loco,a bagnall from the WHHR. which one will be finished first? presumably, the bagnall will be a replacement for sid which I heard may be sold next year. so maybe the bagnalls overhaul will be fast tracked??
     
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    The Bagnall is at Boston Lodge. I believe it remains in private ownership but will initially run on the L&B when complete.
     
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    Indeed, the Bagnall is in private ownership but slated to run on the L&B. Currently, there are no firm sale plans for Sid, as far as I am aware.
     
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    ah ok thanks guys. I thought I read in one of the mags that sid may be sold next year, possibly abroad because she would struggle with the new heritage coaches going up the gradient from killington lane. might not be the case then.
     
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    If anyone were interested in buying Sid, I'd recommend they contact the L&B. It's just that there's no firm plans as yet - an offer might well be welcome!

     
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    Anybody interested in the 762 Club project to build a new Lyn might want to check out the upcoming edition of Steam Railway Magazine. I think it might be out in the next day or so...
     
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    Shouldn't that be New Lyn, as in New Labour??! I gather it would be as different from the original as Lyd is from Yeo..... and talking of which, how is the L&B Trust progressing the construction of that project, launched I believe in 1996?
     
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    No - Newlyn is a village in Cornwall, not a river in North Devon! :)

    If anything, "Lyn II" would probably be a more likely name, if there was actually a need to differentiate, but there is unlikely to be much in the way of confusion between the two locomotives, with around 80 years between the demise of one and the birth of the other. Interestingly, "Lyd", rather than "Lew" was chosen as the name of the FR loco because at the time the project was taking shape, there was still believed to be some (however small) chance that "Lew" was still in existance. Almost 30 years later, that likelyhood is even more remote, and there is no chance of the original "Lyn" being discovered - not even on the moon!

    The basic frames for Yeo are currently in storage, just waiting for the funding to progress (All donations will, I'm sure, be most gratefully received!). When Project Yeo does proceed, it will be to build "Yeo" for the 21st Century, benefitting from the experiences gained through building and operating "Lyd". I'm sure there was never any intention among those original Project Yeo pioneers to call the loco "New Yeo", was there?

    Although there are long-term plans to reproduce all of the original L&B Locos, planning and fundraising for the surveys, TWO and other works to extend the existing line to a length that would make the additional locomotive power viable are being given priority by the L&B Trust, in conjunction with the various stautory bodies, local organisations and major - indeed, multi-national - companies that are becoming more involved as the plans are developed.
     
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    By pure coincidence, I have just received this week's report from the L&B Thursday Gang - Anyone interested in supporting the Yeo Project might be interested in seeing the latest pictures from Woody Bay: Work in Progress: 19th July | Lynton_&_ Barnstaple_Railway
     

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