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NG15 120, where is it?

Rasprava u 'Narrow Gauge Railways' pokrenuta od Meiriongwril, 28. Kolovoz 2012..

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  1. Meiriongwril

    Meiriongwril Member

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    anyone know what progress if any on NG15 120?
     
    Meiriongwril, 28. Kolovoz 2012.
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  2. Felix Holt

    Felix Holt Guest

    Hey -I'd like to know this too!
    Is there no-one who can give an update??
     
    Felix Holt, 29. Kolovoz 2012.
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  3. MartinBall

    MartinBall Guest

    I agree - surely someone has an update on this loco?
     
    MartinBall, 30. Kolovoz 2012.
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  4. Chris B

    Chris B New Member

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    According to an update on NG15 134 by Team Wylfa on Barrie Hughes' WHR site NG15 120 was sold by the WHHR to "Collection X"
     
    Chris B, 20. Rujan 2012.
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  5. Meiriongwril

    Meiriongwril Member

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    Yes - just saw that too. That'll be the last anyone ever sees of 120, then ... :(
     
    Meiriongwril, 20. Rujan 2012.
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    "It was announced on February 6th 2009 that no. 120 had been sold to a WHR Ltd member, and would be restored at a private site with the intention of eventual use on WHR Ltd services." That'll never happen.

    At least there is still 113 and 134 though, eventually....
     
    SpudUk, 20. Rujan 2012.
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  7. Baldopeter

    Baldopeter New Member

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    I questioned this on the WHR e-group. Peter Johnson replied that he though this is not the case, Collection x already has 121, so maybe Clive is misinformed.

    At Dinas there is 134 undergoing restoration, and 133 ( not 113) outside with the new tender for 134 adjacent giving a good impression of what 134 will eventually look like.

    Regards

    Peter
     
    Baldopeter, 20. Rujan 2012.
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    Hopefully 109 won't follow it!
     
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  9. Christopher125

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    I'd be surprised if this was true - i've not seen it mentioned before and as Peter Johnson pointed out on the WHR e-group Collection X already has one in better condition.

    Chris
     
    Christopher125, 20. Rujan 2012.
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    48DL Member

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    I like your certainty on this matter Mr Auckland, do you have some inside knowledge?
     
    48DL, 20. Rujan 2012.
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  11. RalphW

    RalphW Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Administrator Friend

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    Who need inside knowledge when you can make sweeping statements with little evidence to back them up?
     
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    lynbarn Well-Known Member

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    Hi Ian,

    I was up at Brecon Mountain two years ago when 121 made as surprise visit for an assessment, I asked at the time and was told the boiler barrel was shot to pieces, but the chassis was reasonable, what ever that means, somewhere I have a few photos of said loco outside of the works at the BMR.

    I am not sure just how many NG15 experts we have in the UK, but I have heard that the NG15s in the UK range from a collection of rust to a box of parts that need everything renewing.

    As much as i would like to see all of them working in the UK, I cant see it happening some how.

    Regards

    Colin Rainsbury
     
    lynbarn, 20. Rujan 2012.
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  13. Tobbes

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    Sorry, newbie question. What is "Collection X"?

    Thank-you

    Toby
     
    Tobbes, 20. Rujan 2012.
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    Well 133 and 134 were both supposed to be in better condition than Garratt 87, which has been back in service a couple of years now. So they are neither a collection of rust nor a bag of bits. Just low priorities.

    I don't know about 120 - maybe it was the boiler that was wanted? It certainly had been reduced to a bag of bits.
     
    pete2hogs, 21. Rujan 2012.
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  15. 61624

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    It is interesting that 121 was being assessed - presumably for restoration to working order? Would it fit on the VoR? Presumably it would fit on the BMR , but where else?
     
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    The VoR has one overbridge, which also goes over the mainline with significant clearance, and the VoR GW locos are the widest on the 2' in this country by a good 6" as discussed on another thread recently. If a loco will go round the bends, it will definitely fit on the VoR!
     
    guard_jamie, 21. Rujan 2012.
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  18. Christopher125

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    A large collection of NG locomotives and a quantity of track and rolling stock from various lines around the world - while some are currently sitting in a shed on the VOR. the rest are believed to be somewhere in Surrey. Unfortunately the PRNGT wiki page no longer has a list of the loco's believed to be involved, though according to posts on the WHR e-group it does indeed now contain 120.

    Chris
     
    Christopher125, 21. Rujan 2012.
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  19. michaelh

    michaelh Part of the furniture

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    I would have thought it was the bends rather than the clearances. Even at Sandstone the NG15 is barred from the top end because of the tightness of the curves and I would have said (not as a surveyor!!!) that those on the VoR were tighter
     
    michaelh, 21. Rujan 2012.
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  20. Stokerpro

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    I have today seen the locomotive and spoken at length to its owner and can confirm the following.

    The locomotive has no connection to "Collection X", the Phylis Rampton Trust or the V of R and is privately owned.

    The loco is subject to an ongoing longish term restoration and as yet there are is no further news to detail.

    The loco is stored at a private site and is not available to visit.

    There are no details or confirmation as to where the loco will run as this is still a long way off and far too early for such a decision.

    An authorised photo is attached !!!!!!!

    I hope this clarrifies the situation as to this loco as best as possible at this time.
     

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