Winter CMEs 2013

You made some fairly strong hints on here and on Flickr and how do you know he didn't say anything?

 

Hi Guys,this is my attempt of the A4 at Birkett Common returning south,best wishes Tony

A4 through the Cumbrian Fells | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

 

Nice.

 

So it's all right to stand on someones' wall and I presume all observe the courtesy of asking the landowners permission to access their land - 'en mass' at some spots. Selective angst, methinks!

 

There's a few new faces in this thread, welcome.

trespass... It's a bigger "issue" on the UK's railways than any other country worldwide, it's reason I can only think, is due to the demise of an MP in 1829... Had it been a "normal" our history may have been very different and more like the rest of the world.
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Not so long ago a photographer achieved world fame for just missing a DMU with his back to it watching 70013... Yet he was "right side" of the fence as I recall, standing on the platform.

whilst they may have "trespassed".. Both on the NR side of the fence, and the owner of the land adjacent to it, In order to get there.. I wouldn't consider there location as "dangerous".. One doesn't imply the other.

At some point everyone has been guilty of trespass somewhere in the world, lets not put ourselves in glass houses, but lets do ensure safety is promoted.

 

I cannot imagine danger being the immediate concern in reality, rather their impaired view of proceedings, if truth be told.

 

The camera was on the wall not me but its ok to stand lineside is that your point because if it is you are as bad as them and its common land and available to all .

 

Would like to make my point clear as I was filming and captured people lineside on my second camera that I perhaps could not have used in my video but why should I as at the end of the day these guys were breaking the law " FACT ". If folk dont like that then that is up to them . Steve

 

I remember the 4472 run through Newark very well and those scenes will never ever be repeated in this day and age.I recall that day in my 'railway cameraman' page David Hey's Collection - 74 - RAIL CAMERAMAN S LATHLANE I don't think any of the photographers on the wrong side knew they were being filmed, correct me if I'm wrong Stephen but I think you position a second camera to the wall to get that going away shot. There is only one photographer in the shot who stayed on the right side even the chap on the wall then stood down inside the wall. So Neil was the photographer on the right side so my hats off to him for his sensible approach to getting the 'master shot' Any form of trespass is bad news for our hobby and will give those that wish to see it taken off the national network ammunition they require. I know people get very tired about this subject so this is my last post on the matter.

 

I feel for you Phil, I was just round the corner at Lambrigg and that big black cloud almost ruined things there as well.

 

I wish people would just stop bleating about "trespass". It will make no difference to the photographers concerned. It will make no difference to the attitude towards steam excursions of the busmen running our railways.

 

Thanks for the comment but the guys must have seen me twice turn my camera round and film them at least once as I made a point of waving at them as if too say I have got you . Saying that I had a similar shot from the same location 12 months ago of a well known photographers son lineside at S green whos photo appeared in Steam Railway magazine . Sent them a side on photo of him but nothing back so we are never going to stop lineside shots if others dont condone it

 

That is a cracking shot Tony in lovely lighting .

 

What sad little lives some people must lead!!

 

Sad enough to get your reply LOL.

 

Great stuff Stephen excellent reply.

 

Well said Steve waiting for lancelots reply lol