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No.3 Sir Haydn to head back to her birthplace

Discussie in 'Narrow Gauge Railways' gestart door ellisteph12, 18 feb 2013.

  1. ellisteph12

    ellisteph12 New Member

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    We are delighted to announce that The Talyllyn Railway’s Locomotive No.3 Sir Haydn is going on its travels in April, when it is due to be moved to Leicestershire to appear at the Great Central Railway’s Swithland Steam Gala between 26th and 28th April 2013. Here it will be displayed in the yard at Quorn and Woodhouse station along with a Talyllyn publicity and sales stand staffed by volunteers from the railway.

    No.3 'Sir Haydn' to head back to Birthplace! | Talyllyn Railway

    Hope to see lots of visitors at Quorn for quite a unique event!

    Thanks
    Ellis
     
  2. Baldwin

    Baldwin Guest

    I would of thought "Sir Haydn" to of been a "him" or at the very least a "it's" !!
     
  3. SpudUk

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    It can't be quite unique!

    Anywho, sounds like a brilliant idea to generate some interest in the Talyllyn, and hopefully increase visitor numbers

    All locomotives a shes/hers, there was quite a to-do when Russell was officially recognised as a him
     
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    I say "officially recognised" loosely
     
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    nanstallon Part of the furniture

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    Which is PC these days?

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  6. paulhitch

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    If it is named after a living creature it would be sensible to call the machine "he" or "her" as appropriate.

    I understand that "Prince" on the F.R. is known as "the old Gent" whilst "The Earl" and "Countess" even have male and female personalities respectively!

    P.H.
     
  7. Baldwin

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    ...At the very least to call a masculinely named locomotive a "her" is bordering on sexual schizophrenia !
     
  8. SpudUk

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    Naming a locomotive in honour of something or someone won't have an affect on it's personality.

    In English it is/was generally accepted that any object that can contain people, such as countries, ships, or vehicles, or when referring to certain other machines, is referred to as being female. This is now in decline however
     
  9. Baldwin

    Baldwin Guest

    ...Well i reckon Sir Haydn would of had something to say about it !
     
  10. houghtonga

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    In my opinion as "Russell" was a family name and not a first name (J.C. Russell, Chairman and Managing Director of the NWNGR) it can be either 'he' or a 'her'

    (as there are no initials on the nameplate it can be assumed that the locomotive was named after his family rather than the individual)

    Kind regards,
    Gareth
     
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    I hope so, can't wait to get out on the road.

    Appreciate being called 'she' is a contentious issue. I'm always led by the drivers and fireman who have worked with the loco for 30+ years that it is a 'she'.
     
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    Hmm interesting debate, to go off topic I've always thought of most of the Loco's on the IMR as masculine, as most of them were named after Men - (ie Sutherland, Derby,Pender,Loch, GH Wood, Maitland, Hutchinson, Kissack (and maybe the Mannin though that is a contentious one - is it an deriviation of a Celtic Sea God Mannin or alternatively a name used for the whole Island?) and Aisla, (plus AM Sheard if it had been built)), for balance the one's with Female Names as feminine (Mona and Fenella), and the one's with place, institution or other Literary names as Gender Nuetral - and therefore generally referred to by either just its name or with The prefixed (eg Peveril, Tynwald, Douglas, Ramsey and Northern, and Caledonia - however generally abbreviated to the Cale).

    As for Viking the jury could be out on that one, but I would suggest it should be masculine to?

    Not sure about The New Diesel yet - will get back to you on that one!
     
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